R/C Forum 2001

Name: Kenny
Topic: ·s¥JÀ³§_¥ýª±¹q°ÊªºTrainer­¸¾÷ or "Parkflyer"?
Date: 31/12/2001
Time: 22:46:48

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Name: Willy
Topic: Ma On Shan
Date: 31/12/2001
Time: 15:14:07

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Ming, this slope is only flyable if you have easterly wind. Once the wind gets northerly, the wind will blow from you back rendering the slope virtually useless. Further, in my experience, the wind speed on this site is less than those of Shek O, Fei Ngo Shan and Clearwater Bay, the reason being, I suspect, the hills around High Island Reservoir blocking the wind.

Visit the HK Observatory's web site and refer to the page on regional weather. Focus on the regional weather in Sai Kung. In my opinion, unless it reads a consistent easterly wind with speed of at least 20 km/hr, don't bother walking up to the Ma On Shan slope. I learned from the Observatory that the wind measuring equipment in Sai Kung is situated at Tui Min Hoi (i.e., roughly at the foot of our slope) at a height of about 31 m above sea level. It should be useful.

The most popular site is undoubtedly Clearwater Bay. Visit the page on flying sites on this website for details. You are more likely to meet experienced modellers over there who are able to assist you.

Name: Ming
Topic: Hello to all!
Date: 30/12/2001
Time: 20:20:31

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I have finished assembling my first plane la,:> very happy and I have brought a two channel controller lu, today afternoon, I went to Ma On Shan to 'test' my plane, however, I found nobody there and there was no wind at all, very disappointing, could anyone tell where I should go and anybody could help me during my first fight?

thanks alot!

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: Learning  to fly - reply to  Anil Stephen
Date: 28/12/2001
Time: 13:49:40

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Hi Anil,

As a new comer I think you better buy a ready-made rudder model such as AMD Sparrow or other similar, because the time you need to build is less and also the rudder model is more stable and easier for begineer. After you have mastered the basic soaring skill, then you may consider to get a foamy aileron model such as JAZZ or ME163, the reason is that you can learn aerobatic and landing skill with these crashed-proved foamies. After passing this stage and depending on your interest, you may like to get more expansive but high-performance scale or competitive models. You can find lot of useful information on various kinds of sailplanes in this site.

If you really like to join this fascinating hobby, I would recommand you to come to Clearwater Bay during weekend to see how we enjoy r/c soaring. You may send me an email at stanley@rcsail.com if you need help to get to the flying site. Cheers!

Name: R Yan
Topic: Transmitter
Date: 27/12/2001
Time: 22:34:27

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Hi, Ming. It is better for you to start learning with the conventional control and use the same mode as other pilot friends are using in the flying site, because they can help you with the same kind transmitters they are using. Of course, the "gun" type can do equally well in controlling any plane if you are an experienced flyer.

Name: Ming
Topic: Hello!
Date: 27/12/2001
Time: 21:25:58

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could I use the "gun" controller(for model car use) to control my plane?(my friend got one and thus i could use it without buying a new one)

Name: Anil Stephen
Topic: learning to fly
Date: 27/12/2001
Time: 17:20:23

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Hi,

I am new to the world of r/c gliding. And am considering buying a either a glider or r/c plane. But am not sure what is best in Hong Kong. Any suggestions???

And where can I learn to fly. Would appreciate hearing from any of you.

Thanks

Anil Stephen

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: Learning to fly
Date: 27/12/2001
Time: 16:21:18

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Hi Ming, as a first time begineer, I think you better come to see how others setup and fly their planes before actual building yours. In fact most of our fellow pilots are willing to teach new comers even using their own trainer models. Bring with your model and come to Clearwater Bay during weekend, and ask for an introduction to r/c soaring, you may be surprised if you are given a free lession using other people models!

Name: Willy Lim
Topic: Ming
Date: 27/12/2001
Time: 15:16:41

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A 2 Channel radio set will include a battery case for 4 AA size batteries to power the receiver and servos. This is in addition to the 8 AA size cells for the transmitter. You may use dry cells or rechargeable batteries according to your personal preference.

For lead ballast, visit your nearest fishing equipment shop. They are quite cheap. I don't recommend you leaving the motor inside the plane purely to serve as ballast, as you are unnecessarily exposing the motor shaft to the risk of bending which is quite frequent in the learning stage.

Control on the wings? I think you're referring to aileron equipped planes. Beginners usually will only try these after they have mastered the basic 2 channel rudder/elevator plane, which nevertheless is capable of performing some aerobactics such as loop (u-turn as you called it?), stall turn and if you really got the speed and nerve, a rudder roll.

Name: Ming
Topic: thank you Willy Lim!
Date: 27/12/2001
Time: 2:43:01

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thank you for your reply, I really hope to join you all to play sliding plane! :>

I want to treat my plane as a "slope" plane, however, I have to buy a battery to power the servos inside the plane, any recommendation?

moreover, where could I find lead ballast ? Could I installed the motor comes with the plane kit to make the CG of the plane correct?(without using motor, treat it as ballast).

I saw that some plane can have control on their "main" wings 'angle so that the plane can 'Rolls', but for my plane, I see no such design, am my plane a 'stupid' plane? can it make a u-turn?

Name: Willy Lim
Topic: Kyosho Stratus 1600
Date: 26/12/2001
Time: 20:41:18

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Ming, if I recall correctly, Stratus is a basic rudder/elevator self launching electric sailplane. As such it should be suitable for beginners. I've flown its airelon equipped stablemate called "Soarus" both on the slope and on flat field, and it was docile on both occassion.

To save cost, don't bother buying speed controller and power batteries if you're interested in slope soaring only and not electric flight. Use lead ballast to achieve the same CG (i.e., the CG is on the same point irrespective of whether it is electrically powered) and simply treat the plane as a slope soarer.

As to radio, a cheap 2 channel Futaba set should do if you have no intention of flying electric and therefore don't need a 3rd channel for speed control.

Make sure you're guided by someone experienced on your first flight if you have never flown before.

Name: Ming
Topic: Novice.
Date: 26/12/2001
Time: 18:11:47

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I do have a plane on hand, but I haven't brought the controller, batteries, charger and servos, my plane is "kyosho stratus 1600", it seems that it is not a "sensitive" plane? Any low-price controller and servos recommmed? I am a student and I don't have much money. Once I 've got all these components could I start to assemble the plane!

thanks alot

Name: Ming
Topic: Novice.
Date: 26/12/2001
Time: 18:09:35

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I do have a plane on hand, but I haven't brought the controller, batteries, charger and servos, my plane is "kyosho stratus 1600", it seems that it is not a "sensitive" plane? Any low-price controller and servos recommmed? I am a student and I don't have much money. Once I 've got all these components could I start to assemble the plane!

thanks alot

Name: Willy Lim
Topic: Attention all beginners (such as Ming)
Date: 26/12/2001
Time: 14:52:15

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Never fly by yourself for your 1st flight or you'll wreck your plane in seconds. Get an instructor to guide you. You can scroll the messages below for the phone number of our instructor.

Name: Ming
Topic: I am a novice, please help!
Date: 25/12/2001
Time: 21:01:44

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I have just got an plane called "Kyosho STRATUS 1600", is it a ¤sÌi·Æµ¾¾÷? Is it suitable for ¤sÌi·Æµ¾? I want to play it at Ma On Shan, is this possible?

Thank alots!

Name: ANTONY
Topic: LOOK FOR STANLEY TAM
Date: 21/12/2001
Time: 13:05:02

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stanley, i lost your e-mail address. send me a message pls. Have you fly any plane in New York? Merry X'mas Antony

Name: Santa Claus
Topic: Merry Christmas
Date: 21/12/2001
Time: 3:14:42

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Joy to the world, la la la laaaaaa

Name: Stanley Tam
Topic: Merry Christmas
Date: 19/12/2001
Time: 0:16:12

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Hi all Hong Kong RC pilots Merry Christmas & Happy Landing.

Stanley Tam from far away USA.

Name: Bevan
Topic: FF9 Trainer cable
Date: 16/12/2001
Time: 19:33:47

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Hi, You can buy a trainer cable to go from a ff9 to an older type of socket (such as the one on the skysport4) at a Hong Kong rc heli store called cyber heli. Their web address is www.cyberheli.com

Happy Flying, Bevan

Name: Sam Logan
Topic: Glider for my new FF9
Date: 14/12/2001
Time: 23:26:24

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Hello, i am wanting to by a rc glider for about 800 HKD. I don't want it to be two big or fancy. About 2m will do it. I would like it to have ailerons, elevator, rudder, spoilers and airbrake just so i can slow it down. Thanks Sam Logan

Name: Bevan
Topic: FF9H
Date: 14/12/2001
Time: 23:10:39

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Hi, Thanks. I am looking foward to my visit. I used to live in Hong Kong, but I now live in Shanghai, all of my gliders are in New Zealand, so I don't have any chance of getting one of them to fly, and I haven't flewn off a slope before. Mabe I can buy and build a Zagi or some other EPP plane. Do you think someone could give me a quick leason on a trainer cable.

Thanks, Bevan

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: FF9H
Date: 14/12/2001
Time: 13:49:15

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Hi Bevan, Most of us in HK fly in mode-1, make sure this is what you want. Otherwise, you might have to do conversion to mode-2 ! Mak

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: Buy Futaba FF9H in Hong Kong
Date: 14/12/2001
Time: 1:20:50

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Hi Bevan,

you can buy FF9H in

Radar Company Ltd

URL: http://www.radarrc.com/

Rm 105-106, Sware Trading Tower, 19-23 Austin Avenue, Tsimshatsui, Kowloon Tel: 2739 0577 Fax: 2739 0717

I believe, it should cost about HK$2,900 to HK$3,000.

Fancy about having a day of r/c soaring in Hong Kong during your stay?

Happy Christmas!

Stanley

Name: Bevan Jones
Topic: FUTABA FF9H
Date: 13/12/2001
Time: 16:41:25

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Hi, Could anyone please tell me a good place in Hong Kong to get a futaba 9U Helicopter version? How much will it cost? I am realy looking foward to getting this new raidio when I am coming to Hong Kong at Christmas. Happy Flying.

Thanks, Bevan Jones

Name: Agent Rasta
Topic: \__________O__________/
Date: 8/12/2001
Time: 23:56:35

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Rain rain go away, come again another day......!

Name: «C
Topic: ¹]¤ù
Date: 29/11/2001
Time: 22:59:23

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Name: Robin
Topic: "CS" SPITFIRE.....FOR SALE....RTF
Date: 28/11/2001
Time: 2:39:23

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Brand new "Canterbury Sailplanes" Spitfire for sale,........... (Break's my heart but i need the money !!)........... Beautiful covering, Tested 3 times, Flys great, $1500...... Welcome to try before you buy...... If your interested just mail me, Bagira@HKstar.com Thanks.

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: Futaba 9C trainer cord
Date: 28/11/2001
Time: 0:53:50

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Hello All, Anyone know where can I buy a trainer cord for the Futaba 9C in HK ? I have a 9C, and wants to connect it to a Futaba Skysport 4VF.

Name: dd
Topic: where to fly
Date: 23/11/2001
Time: 15:13:41

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is anybody can tell me where to fly this weekend?

Name: dd
Topic: where to fly
Date: 23/11/2001
Time: 15:00:43

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where to fly this weekend ? (24-25nov)

Name: TSZ MING
Topic: ABOUT THE RULE
Date: 15/11/2001
Time: 6:30:00

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OUT TO ALL A FLYING RULE IS VERY GOOD IDEA TO MAKE FLYING MORE SAFE,HKRCSS SHOULD FULLY HANDLE THIS RULE AND SEND THE DRAFT TO ALL PEOPLE ABOUT THIS SPORT. AND MEDIA TOO.LET ALL PEOPLE KNOW WE A SAFE GUY AND THIS IS A SAFE SPORT.

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: Accident in Fei Ngo Shan
Date: 13/11/2001
Time: 20:46:47

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It is a sorrow event that one of our fellow r/c pilots who went to fly his sailplane quietly in Fei Ngo Shan north-facing slope on Sunday, November 11, was hit by a fast moving sailplane. The accident happened when he was standing beside a group of pilots watching the soaring sailplanes, a 2m Fox suddenly approached for landing without warning and overshot the landing area. He was direct-hit in his face and was seriously injured with intensive breeding. He was rushed to hospital for operation and luckily the operation was successful and he is recovering well. This horrific accident prompts us to think seriously on the safety issues in our flying fields. HKRCSS is now working to draft a booklet on safety guidelines; your inputs are welcome.

Name: Chester
Topic: TVB News
Date: 13/11/2001
Time: 11:21:39

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For those miss the news on 11/11 about combat contest, visit the following url

http://news.tvb.com/630pm/2001/1111/index_2.html

have fun

Name: beginner
Topic: getting started
Date: 11/11/2001
Time: 20:15:22

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which planes are suitable for beginners?

Name: TO Chester
Topic: NEED HELP?
Date: 7/11/2001
Time: 13:51:29

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DEAR CHESTER, IF YOU NEED ANY HELP, JUST RING ME, I MUST TRY ME BSET TO MAKE THE GAME WORK SMOOTH.92313460 WAIT FOR SOMEONE KICK MY BACK ANY SHOOT ME DOWN!!! HEE HEE TSZ MING

Name: Chester
Topic: RULE IN CHINESE PLEASE
Date: 7/11/2001
Time: 11:05:39

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Hi TSZ MING,

1.A RULE IN CHINESE, Chinese Rules here http://www.geocities.com/hkrcss/combat1101C.html

2.BRING A SPEARKER TO THE SITE FOR COMMEND ALL PEOPLE, Will have, if you have one please bring also

3.MAKE A BIG BANNER TO LET OTHER PEOPLE KNOW WHAT WE A DOING, I am working on the Banner for the club

4.IS IT BETTER RING SOME MEDIA COME TO REPORT THE CASE? May be

5.I HOPE TO BE A sponsored TOO You are welcome, please contact me or Stanley directly or bring your sponsors that day. If you have you own banner, please bring and we will show with you sponsors.

Chester Tai V=C, HKRCSS

Name: TSZ MING
Topic: RULE IN CHINESE PLEASE
Date: 7/11/2001
Time: 10:44:17

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CHESTER, IS IT BETTER TO HAVE 1.A RULE IN CHINESE, 2.BRING A SPARKER TO THE SITE FOR COMMEND ALL PEOPLE, 3.MAKE A BIG BANNER TO LET OTHER PEOPLE KNOW WHAT WE A DOING, 4.IS IT BETTER RING SOME MEDIA COME TO REPORT THE CASE? I HOPE TO BE A sponsored TOO! BUT JUST VERY LOW COST THINK, OK?

Name: Chester
Topic: Combat Contests
Date: 6/11/2001
Time: 23:18:15

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Dear HKRCSS members,

The Hong Kong Radio Control Soaring Society is going to organize a series of slope combat contests. The first contest will be held in Clearwater Bay on 11 November, 2001 (Sunday). Please see the details in our club's web site http://www.geocities.com/hkrcss/combat1101.html

The event is sponsored by many sailplane manufacturers - so the prices a re attractive! Do come and win the contest. Please also pass the message to your glider friends in case they are not HKRCSS's members.

Happy combating

Chester Tai V=C, HKRCSS

Name: Raymond
Topic: off topic but fun
Date: 6/11/2001
Time: 14:50:53

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my friends, check this out! don't be too mad at me! http://home.hkstar.com/~raywong/tms2001/album.htm

Name: Willy Lim
Topic: Flat Field Event
Date: 5/11/2001
Time: 14:45:22

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There are so much 1.5 m Shooting Stars, Ellipses and the likes around that it seems viable to hold some sort of organised fun fly event on a flat field, on the assumption that these planes can double as HLG or be bungee launched.

Please leave a message on this forum if you are interested. If there is sufficient interest, I shall speak to the committee and see if HKRCSS is able to book a football field with natural or artificial grass at the University of Hong Kong Sports Centre in Sandy Bay, Pokfulam. It is my observation that they seem to allow access to their sport facilities by outside organisation with prior arrangement of course.

Name: TSZ MING
Topic: FLYING WING
Date: 3/11/2001
Time: 13:12:20

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DEAR ALL BIG AND BEST BROTHER & MASTER;

THERE ARE TOO MANY FLYING WING ON HOT SELLING NOW, LIKE BOOMERANG,JEZZ,ZAGI,CUTLASS AND MANY OTHER ELES.....etc, CAN ANY ONE TELL ME WHICH ONE IS THE BEST? MEAN EASY TO FLY, GOOD LIFE, FAST SPEED, GOOD PERFORMANCE, GOOD ACROBATIC....? WHICH IS THE BEST??? PLEASE REPLY I MIGHT MAKE SOME SURPRISE TO EVERY ONE REPLY TO ME!!!!BUT LATER TSZ MING 3/11/2001

Name: TSZ MING
Topic: COMBAT AT CLEAN WATER BAY TODAY
Date: 3/11/2001
Time: 13:00:11

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OUT TO ALL BIG AND BEST MASTER, PLEASE JOIN THE EPP FLYINGWING COMBAT TODAY I CLEAN WATER BAY THIS AFTERNOON (2:30 TO 5:30). I WILL BE THERE AND WAIT FOR YOU TO KICK MY BACK! HA HA !!!! TSZ MING 3/11/2001

Name: Robin
Topic: Thank you all.
¤é´Á: 31/10/2001
®É¶¡: 0:55:14

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I called up all the shops but no stock till x'mas, So i order from Canterbury Sailplanes in NZ. Worth waiting 1 week for any way. Why HK always no stock ? Thanks for your help.

Name: Patrick
Topic: Re electronic mixer
¤é´Á: 30/10/2001
®É¶¡: 19:48:46

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Hi Robin

You can try Tak Cheong Model Co. (MongKok) MEZZ, FL., 1061, Canton Road near Argyle Street in MongKok, Kowloon Tel: 2393 5411

cheers

Name: Robert Yan
Topic: Electric Mixer
¤é´Á: 30/10/2001
®É¶¡: 18:46:35

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Hi, Robin, There is one electronic mixer by Robbe "Romix Bestell Nr. 8222, elektronisches Mixsystem" by Robbe of Germany. You may try Winning. They are their agency in Hongkong.

Name: Robin
Topic: ELECTRONIC MIXER ????
¤é´Á: 30/10/2001
®É¶¡: 2:33:57

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Do'es anyone know where to get mixers in HK / Kowloon, HK side is sold out. Second hand is good also. Thanks.

Name: Deakin
Topic: Zagi/Jazz
¤é´Á: 29/10/2001
®É¶¡: 17:09:18

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Thanks for the info on Zagi/Jazz!!

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: Slope Combat Contest
¤é´Á: 29/10/2001
®É¶¡: 11:12:38

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Hi guys, Glad to know so many of you are interested in slope combat. The Hong Kong Radio Control Soaring Society (HKRCSS) is going to hold a slope combat contest on November 11 (Sunday) in Clearwater Bay. Detailed Call for Partipation will be posted in HKRCSS's web site soon after we have consolidated the prices and sponsors. Please check http://www.geocities.com/hkrcss/mainE.html So no mater you are Zagi's or Jazz's followers, come and prove yourself to win the contest. Have fun!

Name: Bernard Guillot
Topic: JAZZ,ZAGI or Anything for Slope Comabat Next Saturday Afternoon
¤é´Á: 29/10/2001
®É¶¡: 10:37:27

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Hi Robin,

You are right the pilot is the most important factor in the flying ability of the plane.

And yes you are more than welcome (everybody are). We are a group of easy going flyer who likes the combat. We fly below as you saw so that we will not take up too much air space up there with the big sailplane and it's easier to get the planes back when we get kill.

Come on down and join us on this saturday afternoon around 2PM check the website for posting.

BG

Name: Robin
Topic: Zagi or Jazz
¤é´Á: 29/10/2001
®É¶¡: 2:27:18

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I have one Zagi & one Jazz, My Zagi is good, My Jazz is good. I find that the Jazz is a much better flyer, the Zagi is a much better smasher. Both are great however, i personnally prefer my Jazz, MY flying style suits Jazz better than Zagi. Everybody is going on about which is better, Jazz or Zagi, This is not a question to be answered, There are so many variables in slope soaring & the construction of planes that it does'nt matter how good the plane is, A plane is only as good as it's pilot. I have seen you all in combat this past few weeks from the east site (binoculars only) & would love to join you, sounds fun. See you on the slopes.

Name: Bernard Guillot
Topic: Zagi or Jazz
¤é´Á: 29/10/2001
®É¶¡: 0:41:05

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I own 3 Zagi 3C (i will definitely be bias) the Zagi 3C is a strong mean machine. With it's three Carbon Fiber Bars into them make's them nearly indestructable, from crash or impact. 3 Weeks ago one pilot was following the wrong plane and went strait down from 200 feet and hit a Huge rock. Busted a Battery (2 Inch behind the nose), broke two servo, the servo arm, but the zagi was intact and still flying and servo were replace on the spot and started flying again.

I have seen the jazz there is one guy I meet 2-3 weeks ago on the north side at Fei ngo Shan and his flights were really amazing super smooth, barrel roll were linear, and the plane is very light. Suitable for light wind soaring. But it only contain one reinforcement bar.

Where a Zagi is really mean machine. We now fly 8 guys who own Zagi's at Fei Ngo Shan Every saturday (we are looking for more guys for combat check http://slopecombat.com for more info). And All of them where build with different approach.

Some where light (not as much as the Jazz) with less reinforcements and the others with lot's of tape (provided with the zagi in the box). On low wind the lighter the better. But on Windy Day Light is not a good thing.

Like last weekend the only thing that matter was crash resistence, in 33-38 Km/h winds. And the stronger/better protected where always comming back on top.

So to finish the new Zagi 3C is very good we taught new guys to fly in a few days. And Myself would not change mine for nothing.

Have Fun.

Also if you would like to have fun in Slope Combat we are at the hill near the Scout center at Fei Ngo Shan. Most Guys know us by now as you can see us from the top of the hill. Like we say the more the crazier and when you see 10 Planes in the air running after each other you'll never want to fly anything else.

We are building a website to help all the Slope combat fliers in Hong Kong at http://slopecombat.com so come and have a look. We are not taking over rcsail.com (which for me is the best website for soaring, I found all my information there, thanks guys.) but if you want to have fun with your foamies check us out.

There is around 30 Zagi or zagi lookalike in Discovery bay, Us eight regulars in Fei Ngo Shan, and a whole lot more that I do not know yet So that is why we created this site.

See Ya.

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: More accidents
¤é´Á: 27/10/2001
®É¶¡: 11:59:33

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I was told that, on the same day in Chung Yeung Festival, two more serious accidents happened. The accidents involved two onlookers in Clearwater Bay. One was serious injured after a big sailplane hitting his head. The pilot responsible had to furnish the victim to hospital for operation. Another victim was hit in his belly with minor breeding but he refused to go to hospital for treatment and was just so kind not to request any compensation. Both accidents were not reported to the police so we can see any news about these accidents in the newspapers. However, I believe the accidents are more fatal than the one in Ma On Shan, which was reported in the newspaper. After these accidents, the club should take a more active role to sort out the insurance policy for our members and to educate pilots as well as onlookers on the safety mater in our flying sites. We all want a safe, hazard fee, playing ground for everyone to enjoy.

Name: Willy Lim
Topic: Legal Flying Sites & Insurance
¤é´Á: 27/10/2001
®É¶¡: 0:43:21

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According to the HK Paragliding Association's web site http://www.glink.net.hk, they've apparently reached an agreement with the government whereby only their members are allowed to paraglide in designated areas in HK's country parks. It seems one of the conditions imposed by the government is that they must be insured.

I wish HKRCSS could cut a similar deal with the government for its members interested in the country park sites such as Fei Ngo Shan and Ma On Shan. I for one have no intention of inadvertently committing an offence each time I fly in the country parks.

Name: Robin
Topic: R/C Pilot Insurance
¤é´Á: 27/10/2001
®É¶¡: 0:29:32

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Very sorry to hear about the old guy getting hit by a sailplane, I too accept this to be a very rare occurance, Good to hear the old guy is o.k........I fly in Fei Ngor Shan 2-3 times per week for about 9 months now, I also have been a hiker on these mountains for almost 8 years, you are a million times more likely to hurt your ankle/foot than get hit by a glider on ANY mountain range........Great to see that people are thinking of getting insurance, Maybe it could be cheaper to get insurance for ALL the HKRCSS members rather than on a one-by-one basis. This makes for a good insentive to attract new members to HKRCSS,(I think the country park people will require proof of insurance before they would issue a permit) See you on the slopes......... Robin out......cccchhhkkkkkkkk.

Name: Zhaokun Deng
Topic: to Robert Yan
¤é´Á: 26/10/2001
®É¶¡: 22:15:16

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Hi,Mr Yan. I am the Chinese guy and I am studying in Leeds now. I will continue my studying two or three years outside China and I have to leave all of my planes at home. Before leaving my home, I crashed down one helicopter and two motor gliders. However, I think I have become addicted to glider, for its quietness,cleanness and gracefulness. The worst thing is I can not fly modle glider here without equipment, and I can not find a lacal club. You know, the countryside here is suitable to enjoy gliders. So, I join the Glider Accosiation and learn to play the real one. It is so exiting to fly in 2000 ft high. To control the real one just has some different compare with to control the model. For example, if you want to make a lefe turn, you need to use the aileron and the rudder at the same time, otherwise, the glider will slide, and you do not need to use the elevator at this moment. But I am just a beginner, there are lots of skills need to learn, my aim is just try to fly solo and take my wife with me inside the canopy.

my mobile is 0044 7876 402 101 and the e-mail address changed to :fskun@hotmail.com

happy landing. KUN

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: Accident in Ma On Shan
¤é´Á: 26/10/2001
®É¶¡: 14:03:04

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Yesterday I went up to Ma On Shan for soaring. While on the way up I saw some firemen holding a stretcher on it lying an old man appearing being hurt somehow. I also saw a few fellow r/c soarers followed behind. One of the firemen while seeing me holding a sailplane advised me to be careful in flying my sailplane. I feel a bit unusual then. As I reached the slope and talked to pilots who were already there. I discovered that an hour ago there was an accident - a hiker was hitted by a sailplane. I was told that the sailplane was actually on a landing approach and ran wild into the unfortunate guy. This kind of accident is really rare particularly in Ma On Shan as usually there are not many hikers pass by and plenty of space for the sailplane to land. Anyway, I feel sorry to the victim and to the soarer who piloting the plane. Fortunately, the injury was very minor. Really hope our fellow pilots to take extra care on landing especially there are people pass by. Ok then, we continued to fly our sailplanes for about an hour. Suddenly two wardens from the country park authority appeared, they warned us that charges will be given upon if we continue to fly sailplanes within the country park area and asked us to leave. I think these two events are linked and someone must have sent complaint to the country park authority after the accident. The two wardens were actually very polite. They understood that the slope in Ma On Shan is a very good soaring site and the sport is heathy and didn't do any harm to the ennvironment nearby. They also indicated to us that we can apply for a permission to fly within the country park from the authority. We had lengthy conversation about the sport of r/c soaring and the country park's view on this. The feedback I have is in general positive. So after these two incidents, I think our club should really need to consider the issues of insurance policy and application for the permission to fly within the country park. Any comment from our fellow pilots?

Name: Deakin Frawey
Topic: Zagi or Jazz
¤é´Á: 25/10/2001
®É¶¡: 14:09:32

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Hi,

Im interested in buying either a Zagi 3C or Jazz Xtreme. but cant decide which would be the best. As in good for slope soaring and combat. is there much differnce in performance or durability? or any good or bad points about the aircraft? thanks in advance!!

Deakin Frawley

Name: Willy Lim
Topic: Model planes v. Paragliders
¤é´Á: 19/10/2001
®É¶¡: 17:56:09

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I thought it is an internationally accepted rule (or good practice at the very least) that model planes must give way to full size aircraft which presuambly includes paragliders. I was therefore disturbed when I was told that a handful of sailplane modellers delibrately flew their planes at close range to the paragliders in Shek O in a harassing manner in an attempt to deter the paragliders from entering parts of the airspace favoured by the modellers. The modellers' attitude appears to be one of "enter if you dare, if there's a midair collision, at worst it'll only cost me a model plane, but you'll pay with your life".

While the vast majority of sailplane modellers always take great pains to keep their planes a safe distance from the paragliders and give way to them in all circumstances, I am worried that the attitude of a tiny few and their blatant disregard of internationally accepted practice can eventually get all of us banned from the country park sites at Clearwater Bay (hill top portion), Kowloon Peak, Shek O and Ma On Shan. All it takes is an actual or near collision and a complaint to the authorities.

Name: KC
Topic: Frequency Jamming
¤é´Á: 17/10/2001
®É¶¡: 23:23:16

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Some suggestions: 1/ Erect a frequency band board certainly would help.

2/ Assign a duty site-control officer wearing a tee who can be anyone when he is not flying to help the new flyer and make sure frequency jamming not happen. This will reduce the frequency jamming case.

I am still thinking how to deal with other flyer who are at the nearby mountain site, frequecny jam still may happen. Any good ideas?

Name: Alex Chan
Topic: Stupid guy
¤é´Á: 14/10/2001
®É¶¡: 2:11:35

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I also jimmed by a power plane pilot at previous days. He came to fly glider due to their flying field destoryed by typhoon at previous month. (I've moved to Taiwan) My GFK F3F racer had been destoryed by that guy. Stupid thing happen all the time in everywhere. Good luck!

Name: Stanley Tam
Topic: frequency Jamming
¤é´Á: 11/10/2001
®É¶¡: 0:36:28

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I am in US. The local club almost using a clip which using for usually dry cloth. They using that clip to the Tx to ID the frequency.

Name: Chester
Topic: "Anti-Jam" Tee Design
¤é´Á: 10/10/2001
®É¶¡: 16:16:37

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Ok, we now have a design contest for this T-shirt.

E-mail your design to me then I will prepare a webpage for contest.

Please also suggest how to print your tee.

Cheers Chester

Name: Robin
Topic: Good Idea Chester
¤é´Á: 10/10/2001
®É¶¡: 0:10:07

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I agree with Chester that a tag with the freq on the back would be useful. If someone just 'shoat-out' their freq i am 99% sure it is in Cantonese, Gwilo's like me cannot understand !!

Name: Master Leung
Topic: frequency Jamming
¤é´Á: 9/10/2001
®É¶¡: 23:32:46

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I agree with Chester that using the tag to identify the frequency is processing or not. And we must be clear that everyone should do this. Then the pilots will not argue again in this case. Happy Landings everyone!!

Name: Chester
Topic: A solution for the frequency-jam's problem?
¤é´Á: 9/10/2001
®É¶¡: 9:21:57

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May be we can make a club Tee with freq printed on the back??

Actually, in other countries, they have a freq broad with pre-printed tag. Pilots cannot fly without the tag and should return the tag when not flying.

This may be a priority project for the club now.

Chester

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: A solution for the frequency-jam's problem?
¤é´Á: 8/10/2001
®É¶¡: 22:28:01

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Well, my frequency is on 40MHz band which is by far the most populous. I use only one single frequency for all my receivers and seldom switch crystal. I know at least 3 active pilots using the same frequency, but no problem we know each other and we all observe the rule. The real problem is those who just occasionally appear, like the guy who shot my plane down yesterday, he said he haven't been to the field for 4 years. Yesterday's incident, however, taught me a big lesson as the guy was putting the blame on me because I didn't listen to his ¡§shouting¡¨ and the responsibility should be resting on my side! I am sure all of you will not agree on this, right? But, anyway, in order to protect myself from new jamming, I guess I am going to make a big white board with writing "½Ð¤â¤U¯d±¡¡B40.xxx MHz ÀW¹D¦b¨Ï¥Î¤¤¡¨ and hang the board in my back when I am flying my plane. In case of jamming, the responsibility is the guy who didn't look at my board, not mine!

Name: Willy Lim
Topic: Jamming
¤é´Á: 8/10/2001
®É¶¡: 20:02:21

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Stanley, while I am sorry to hear about the incident you mentioned below, I think you deserve our respect and commendation for setting an example for us to follow in the aftermath of such situation: exercising self restraint, not letting your rage to takeover and refraining from doing the obvious, i.e., shooting down the SOB by jamming.

You seem to have more than your fair share of jamming losses. Did they all occur on the same frequency? If so, please let us know what frequency it is. I for sure will avoid flying on and sharing this frequency with scums.

Name: Robin again
Topic: ::::: Frequency Jam:::::
¤é´Á: 8/10/2001
®É¶¡: 7:54:11

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If someone destroyed another persons plane due to such a stupid reason as frequency Jam why the person responsible not have to pay for the broken plane ???

If crashing into another plane in flight i believe this to be a small mistake & can understand it (wind-shift, pilot error ect.), nobody crash in flight on purpose !!! NOT CHECKING THE FREEK-SHEET IS UNEXCUSEABLE,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I know that you are reading this "MR. Frequency Jammer Dickhead", The next time you see Mr Stanley Chan (the owner of the shooting star that YOU, YES YOU destroyed) you should act like a man and appologize, You give R/C pilots a bad name due to the danger you put the other pilots & public into, If we needed a licence to fly gliders than yours should be torn up and stuffed up your ass. Happy Soaring................Happy Landings.

Name: Robin
Topic: ::::: Frequency Jam:::::
¤é´Á: 8/10/2001
®É¶¡: 7:34:17

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So sorry to hear about your New Shooting Star, I once have my Junior Star jammed & also sustained very bad damage to the fusealage, The pilot responsible never even said sorry to me. I guess we live in a time of very irresponsible people, I have once made the same mistake myself of 'turning on'& did not check the freq sheet before-hand. I was very lucky because the pilot who i jammed was soaring very high at the time and i heard him shoating "I-YYYYYYYAAAAHHHHHH", I 'turned off' in 2 seconds & he did not crash, yes i'm stupid, but at least i can realize my mistake & appologize to him........I have never made this mistake again after that...(And i made a new friend)...!!!!!!!

Name: Kevin Lam
Topic: freq jam
¤é´Á: 8/10/2001
®É¶¡: 0:58:03

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Stanley, I feel sorry about the bad experience happened on you. Anyway, it is lucky that your jammed plane didn't crush into other pilots or spectators. Just hope that every one in the field would pay more attention on freq matter becuase people or properties would be affected seriously due to such unnecessary human error and irresponsilbe attitude towards this hobby. It is especially important for radio controlled helicopters and engine powered aeroplanes....no one can bare the outcome I am sure

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: Frequency Jam
¤é´Á: 7/10/2001
®É¶¡: 23:48:18

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A bit unhappy today as my brand new Shooting Star was jammed and crash-landed on a tree sustaining severe damage. Why me? I have a brand new Prodij, two new Shooting Stars and many others written off for the same reason! However, today incident is one of the most unhappiest. The guy who jammed my plane down did look at the frequency chart board and knew someone was flying using the same frequency as his, but he just "shouted" and then turned on his transmitter. My God who can really notice his voice when many pilots including me were concentrating on pylon racing at that time! He neither installed a beeper nor turned on his receiver first to make sure there was nobody using the channel. OK, fine, I accepted my bad luck, but that was not the end. After I've recovered my broken plane far down the slope, I was so exhausted and didn't have the energy to say anything yet, that guy came and just shouted at me saying that I am responsible because I didn't listen to his "shouting". He looked so angry as he was the victim! My god, never believe that we have such nasty people in our flying field!

This incident reminds us the following guidelines before turning on your transmitter: Check on the frequency board, if someone is using the same frequency as yours, you "MUST" identify the pilot - just shouting is not OK! Turn on the receiver first, if you have a beeper you should know somebody is there. If you didn't install a beeper, look at your servos for a few seconds to see whether there are controlled movements (by other).

We all like to see our flying field safer and also be friendly please!

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¤é´Á: 7/10/2001
®É¶¡: 21:16:23

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¤é´Á: 4/10/2001
®É¶¡: 16:02:33

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¤é´Á: 3/10/2001
®É¶¡: 22:45:49

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¤é´Á: 3/10/2001
®É¶¡: 21:41:04

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Name: Robert Yan
Topic: Wind Directions over Hongkong
¤é´Á: 1/10/2001
®É¶¡: 18:49:14

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Hi, Robin, there is a 24 hours broadcast of 20 min up-date wind conditions over Hong Kong. The telephone no. to dial is 28094190. It is pretty accurate for FeiNgoShan and CWB. Happy Landing.

Name: Stanley
Topic: Wind direction in Fei Ngo Shan
¤é´Á: 1/10/2001
®É¶¡: 15:08:08

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Hi Robin, I used to look at the wind direction charts from HKO before going to have r/c soaring in Fei Ngo Shan.

http://www2.info.gov.hk/hko/wxinfo/ts/display_element.htm?chinese=0%element=dd

Particularly, I will look at King Park, Shatin and Sai Kung, if they are consistant then go for sure. Sometimes, when the wind speed is too low, the directions among these weather stations vary. To my experience King Park is the most accurate in representing the wind direction in Fei Ngo Shan.

Cheers and happy landing

Name: ¤¿¥J
Topic: ¦hÁ§A­Ìªº¦^À³©MÀ°§U~~
¤é´Á: 1/10/2001
®É¶¡: 11:54:59

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Name: Robin
Topic: Hello to all soarers..............
¤é´Á: 30/9/2001
®É¶¡: 0:41:13

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Today i went to the North slope @ Fei On Shan, I only went to see what the slope looks like, landing patterns/areas, high/low lift ect,as i've never seen it before, looks great to me, I want to fly here more in the northerly winds this winter. One question to all who can help is : I want to see the "Wind Direction & Speed" from the internet for "Fei On Shan" slopes, Do i look at the real-time graph that displays for "Sai Kung" or do i look at "Sha Tin", which is more appropriate ? These would help me alot to decide flying sites as my travel time from home to any site is 1.5hrs, & travel time from one site to another is about 2hrs). Time is of the essance as they say. Any ideas for me ?? Thankyou, See you on the slopes, (Have a happy mid-autumn festival).

Name: ®v³Å±ç
Topic: ªì¾ÇªÌ
¤é´Á: 30/9/2001
®É¶¡: 0:14:40

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Name: ¤¿¥J
Topic: ¤¿¥J¥X³õ°O~~~~Hi Hi
¤é´Á: 29/9/2001
®É¶¡: 22:59:28

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Topic: ÁÂÁ­ò~~
¤é´Á: 29/9/2001
®É¶¡: 22:01:50

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Name: Stanley
Topic: ªì¾ÇªÌ - ¦N¥J
¤é´Á: 28/9/2001
®É¶¡: 17:32:06

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Name: Willy Lim
Topic: To: K Y Mak (about Flight Simulator) ¤Îªì¾ÇªÌ"¦N¦N"
¤é´Á: 28/9/2001
®É¶¡: 13:52:57

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I've seen Flight Simulator software on display at Tak Cheong R/C Model Co, 252 Hollywood Road, Sheung Wan, Hong Kong, Tel: 2857 5021 Fax: 2857 5034. I don't know how updated the software is but guess you can always order the latest from the mail order house in the US such as http://www.towerhobbies.com/ .

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Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: Looking for flight simulator
¤é´Á: 26/9/2001
®É¶¡: 0:58:31

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Hello All, I'm new in RC soaring, and would like to do more practice with a flight simulation program. Are there any which is good for slope soaring, and where can I buy it, if it's available in HK ?

Name: ¦N¦N
Topic: À°À°§Úpls~
¤é´Á: 25/9/2001
®É¶¡: 17:23:26

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Name: Stanley Tam
Topic: I am still alive
¤é´Á: 24/9/2001
®É¶¡: 23:08:58

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It's too shock for me in here. I live just 30 mins to the Pentagon and 5 mins to Dulles DC Airport. I just join the soaring club in here CASA (http://www.cp-inc-us.com/casa/frame00.htm).

Name: Master Leung
Topic: Thanks for robin and stanley
¤é´Á: 24/9/2001
®É¶¡: 1:52:09

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Thank you for Robin and Stanley both of them told the fact what was happen about the accident. Last saturday an eagle may be killed by me. Because the eagle attacked the glider (sting) it is belong to stanley. I really didn't want to happen for this sad result. If anyone want to know more information. Please forward to stanley left the message on the forum in 23/09/01. I feel so sad and i prayed for the eagle it was i can do now and keep the birds away.

Name: Stanley
Topic: To clean up the rubbish on the slope
¤é´Á: 23/9/2001
®É¶¡: 23:21:23

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Thank for your information on the identity of the poor bird. To me whether the bird is a Kite or an Eagle, it is still a sad incident of killing a nature soaring companions. We love those birds as much as a naturist would have. Back to the topic on cleaning up the slope, yes, the government should do something to clean it up but I still believe the one who throw rubbish down should be responsible and be punished. The government however should pay more attention and educate those people for the damage they have done to the environment. Honestly, I feel proud of our fellow soarers as I've never seen anyone of them throwing rubbish down to the slope with only exception that they throw their sailplanes down but cannot manage to recover them. We should enjoy r/c soaring the nature can provide to us but in the mean time think about the damage we can possibly do to the nature. Happy soaring!

Name: robin
Topic: Rubbish on the slopes
¤é´Á: 23/9/2001
®É¶¡: 17:36:53

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I just wanted to clarify something, The bird in question is a "Kite", not an "Eagle", Eagles are a protected species in the HK region (& killing one is very bad due to their low reproductive rate), Kites on the other hand breed alot in HK. I tell this for those people who try to cause trouble for us R/C soarers, We are all very enviromentally aware & look after our flying sites & fellow soarers (birds). If anyboby want to complain anything, Complain to the government about the amount of broken bottles & scrap metal that consistantly litter our slopes at Fei Ngr Shan. I tried to get them to clean the affected slopes but the G'ment have not responded to my letters. Maybe someone who reads this knows the correct way to activley pursue this rubbish problem, as i do'nt. Happy Soaring.

Name: Robert Yan
Topic: Poor Eagle
¤é´Á: 23/9/2001
®É¶¡: 12:18:04

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I am sorry to hear about poor eagle and the unfortunate incident.

Name: Maximilian Mann
Topic: Hi its me again... sad for the poor eagle...
¤é´Á: 23/9/2001
®É¶¡: 6:43:26

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But with another of my questions as usual, i feal at home in this page its just u folks are so nice and so kind i usualy post on other ngs and forums but here i always get the right answer.. i hope it for this time becouse i have a stupid but dificult qustion. I just bought my new tx a Multiplex 3030 fur just something around 200 bucks with modul but i can't understand how to use the trimmer those in the midle of the tx for the ailerons as flaps or brakes i have a 4 servo sailplane the whisper and have him all set up with the right mm movements but i can't figure out how to put the ailerons mixed as flaps on the simple trimmer.. on my old fc-18 it was so easy but with the MPX3030 its just terrible i can't find this easy thing :-p !!!! Could u help me ? Maybe just tell me the sequenses i have to push.. It would be so great.. tomorow i'll go on my favourite slope here n italy and try my new whisper... Hope the ewd is fine... Or i'll need some weight on the nose.. ^^ Thank u cya

Name: Robin
Topic: Bird killed by sailplaine
¤é´Á: 23/9/2001
®É¶¡: 5:55:56

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I saw the whole thing, I was watching the bird when it attacked the sailplane. If the bird did not attack the plane it would not of been hit, their was a very clear 10-15ft of air space between them, the bird flipped over & attacked in the blink of an eye. The force of the bird striking it's prey is very powerful, it's supposed to kill its prey on contact, like a bus hitting a bike, thats why the impact was so destuctive. This was one of those very unfortunate accidents that i believe could not of been avoided. The sailplane was the birds target ! (planes are very hard & birds do'nt know this when they attack,the bird made a mistake). The bird was R.I.P after the ground impact i think, It fell very fast, head first from a great height. Every body look out for the birds, Just because you don't want to hit them dos'nt mean they do'nt want to hit you....!!

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: An eagle got kill by my sailplane!
¤é´Á: 23/9/2001
®É¶¡: 1:47:03

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This morning I went to test fly my Sting in Fei Ngo Shan and later joined by Master Leung. We flew the Sting in turn to check the behaviour and butterfly landing characteristics of the sailplane. After a few landings with adjustments on setting and ballast, we were happy to fly it on a course to do some speedy turns as in F3F. This time Master Leung was flying, when the sailplane was cruising steady along the ridge, an eagle popped out and approached the sailplane in a parallel course. This is quite common scenery, as oftenly eagle likes to check out the companion in its airspace. At this moment, just a pure coincident really, as Master Leung started to make a quick turn, the eagle attacked the sailplane and something really horrible was happening, we have a collision! A scene just looked like the Chinese flighter jet collided with the US spy plane! So you can imagine the result of this collision, we saw the eagle spirally fell down, as its wing was possibly broken. The Sting continued it course but with some damage, the wing tip panel was loosen but still flyable. We landed the plane immediately and found out that the carbon wing rod connecting the centre panel with the wing tip panel was nearly broken, you can imagine how big the impact force acted on it! As we thought the eagle might be survived after the fall, all of us including two other pilots who saw the accident went down the slope to search for the poor bird. But really sorry, after more than an hour of searches covering the surrounding area, we were unable to find it - it was probably dead in the initial fall. This kind of accident has never happened in my whole soaring experience, I and Master Leung really feel guilty and sorrow about this and hope this accident would never happen again. May the sol of this poor bird rest in peace.

Name: Willy Lim
Topic: Planes to buy in Hong Kong
¤é´Á: 20/9/2001
®É¶¡: 18:24:18

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If you are interested in PSS, how about the AMD range of semi scale PSS such as P-51, Su-27, etc which being made in China, should be much cheaper in Hong Kong than in Europe.

Name: Robin
Topic: MAXI MANN Planes to buy in HK.
¤é´Á: 19/9/2001
®É¶¡: 23:32:41

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I cannot remember the address but maybe someone else does in this forum, I like the Juniour Star kit avalible in HK, You can choose what dihedral to fix the wings at, so it's up to you, not like alot of kit's here. It also has a very smart apperance like a learjet because of the T-tail. It's a 52" Pylon Racer, light wind's are still o.k.. It has a very very strong wing, Should of broken months ago after a full speed dive into a tree OR when it smashed under a car at high speed, only one small dent & i never notice it..! Happy soaring Maxi Mann.

Name: Maximilian Mann
Topic: Thank u guys for ur help i wrote the adress to my friend....
¤é´Á: 19/9/2001
®É¶¡: 22:08:22

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Thank u really much for ur nice and kind help, as i sad i sended the adress you guys gave me to my friend he is in Hk right now... i hope he find it. I heard that there are some good models in Hk to buy like the carbon something i forgot the name, isn't there any plane that is good buying in Hk ? I can't really imagine that but if u guys say that its ok... I think will just buy some servos and some other stuff...

Name: Robin
Topic: Maxi Mann
¤é´Á: 19/9/2001
®É¶¡: 0:55:14

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Yeah, i agree w/ willie, Plane selection is very limited in HK & not to cheap. Electronics etc are cheap i feel. Good luck, Come fly when your in HK.

Name: Willy
Topic: Hong Kong's hobby shops (amendment)
¤é´Á: 18/9/2001
®É¶¡: 13:30:53

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Sorry this Message Board doesn't seem to allow address to be shown in paragraphs. I'll use commas instead so as to avoid confusion.

Tak Cheong R/C Model Co, 252 Hollywood Road, Sheung Wan, Hong Kong

Name: Willy Lim
Topic: Hong Kong's hobby shops
¤é´Á: 18/9/2001
®É¶¡: 13:25:43

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Try the following shop:

Tak Cheong R/C Model Co 252 Hollywood Road Sheung Wan Hong Kong

Tel: 2857 5021 Fax: 2857 5034

I think you will find radio equipment such as servos, receivers and transmitters a bargain in Hong Kong. But as to gliders, I reckon there is not much point buying them in Hong Kong as the selection is rather limited.

Name: Maximilian Mann
Topic: Hi it's me guys i need ur help urgently....
¤é´Á: 17/9/2001
®É¶¡: 20:03:12

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As i sad in one of my new topics i bought the x-models whisper its a very nice model and its ready to fly but really u just have to put in the rx... and the slope is in ur hand :-) But now i need ur help guys... I have a friend who is comming to Hongkong in a few days and he just told me that he could buy some things for me there... So could u tell me a place vere to buy modeling stuff ? Like an adress or something ? Thats the first thing and the second is.. witch model could i buy that is cheaper in hongkong than in Europe ? Please guys i need an answer... as usual thank u very much for ur help.. ur wounderful...

Name: Willy Lim
Topic: Stanley Tam in DC (or NYC) ? Are you still alive?
¤é´Á: 16/9/2001
®É¶¡: 12:53:29

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n/m

Name: Robin Phillips
Topic: "Tx / Rx" frequency
¤é´Á: 13/9/2001
®É¶¡: 1:57:16

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Sticking papers on a street light is : In the UK & HK illegal to attach papers to a non-private light post. If for some strange reason (which they will think of later) they take offence at you doing this, they will prosicute. Remember that your tel number is on their property, even though the gov'ment is slow & lazy & stupid they can prosicute. They prosicute small companys who do this already. I know it sounds stupid but we live in a stupid time. Look at the World trade towers in NY for example....!! I will never view them in my flight-sim quite the same. As Stanley says, take a moment of silence. Try to do something in the next year that you have always wanted to do but never did, maybe handgliding in NZ, or parachuting in Oz, but do something that gives you a real taste of life.

Name: Robin Phillips
Topic: "Tx / Rx" frequency
¤é´Á: 13/9/2001
®É¶¡: 1:56:25

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Sticking papers on a street light is : In the UK & HK illegal to attach papers to a non-private light post. If for some strange reason (which they will think of later) they take offence at you doing this, they will prosicute. Remember that your tel number is on their property, even though the gov'ment is slow & lazy & stupid they can prosicute. They prosicute small companys who do this already. I know it sounds stupid but we live in a stupid time. Look at the World trade towers in NY for example....!! I will never view them in my flight-sim quite the same. As Stanley says, take a moment of silence. Try to do something in the next year that you have always wanted to do but never did, maybe handgliding in NZ, or parachuting in Oz, but do something that gives you a real taste of life.

Name: Robert Yan
Topic: Notice on flying frequency
¤é´Á: 12/9/2001
®É¶¡: 15:50:39

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Last time I was the first one arriving CWB and flew at the hill instead of the road side. I put a note of my frequency and hand-phone no. on a piece of paper and stuck it on my car window, so that the next arriving pilot would notice my frequency (only if he looks at my car window). I would suggest that we all agree a certain location such as a lamp post that we can stick on our freqencies/phone no. so that we all know where to look for the operating frequencies around the flying areas.

Name: Stanley
Topic: Crashes
¤é´Á: 12/9/2001
®É¶¡: 2:15:26

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Just heard the news of the airplane crashes (attacks) in New York. Can't imagine the motive behind and the scale of damage upon - a moment of silence for the dead. Fly safe and never never never maneuver your sailplane towards the crowd please, it can be a deadly weapon!

Name: Robin Phillips
Topic: Are you having problems to find "Electronic mixers"
¤é´Á: 11/9/2001
®É¶¡: 22:46:39

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Incase anybody interested "Tak Cheong" on hollywood Rd will have mixers in stock in Oct.

Name: Robin Phillips
Topic: "3M  Strapping tape" ( commomly used for delta wings)
¤é´Á: 11/9/2001
®É¶¡: 22:01:58

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I cannot seem to find any shops in HK that sell the strong 3M Strapping tape. You know which one i mean, It has a built in cutter thats red in colour, You get it with the "Jazz" Kit, I think it's "Ho Chien" (expensive). I changed my elevons on the Jazz from corflute (std.) to balsa & now have no tape to connect them on....!!! If anyone can help me locate it i would really appreciate it. Thanks, Happy Soaring all.

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: Multiplex gliders
¤é´Á: 10/9/2001
®É¶¡: 22:10:34

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I agree with Willy and Chester that Multiplex models are more suitable for intermediate pilots. However, if you ask me to choose between Flamingo and Pilatus B4, both are from Multiplex with similar price tags, I would certainly recommand Pilatus B4 over Flamingo. I own both of these sailplanes but to be honest Flamingo is just for begineers and Pilatus B4 is truely for intermediates.

Cheers

Name: Chester
Topic: Multiplex and X-model
¤é´Á: 10/9/2001
®É¶¡: 21:52:04

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I have Multiplex and X-model planes. Since X-model planes are hollow moulded and multiplex are blasa/foam type of construction.

For beginner/intermediate pilots, multiplex are more suitable, since their wings a strong, will not broke easy.

Chester

Name: Willy Lim
Topic: Multiplex and X-model
¤é´Á: 7/9/2001
®É¶¡: 0:35:17

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To my knowledge X-model is not sold in Hong Kong and I am not in a position to comment on it. My understanding as gained from the modelling magazine is that they are a maunfacturer of all moulded sailplane in Belgium or Luxembourg. In general all moulded planes cost more than models with foam wings and are more fragile than the latter. However, in terms of performance, all moulded models should have an edge because moulding allows a more precise airfoil, not to mention smoother surface and hence less drag.

My advice is stick with Flamingo 2001, which also offers an ARF (already covered) version, as an intermediate plane, and once you've got enough experience, you may try the all moulded F3B high performance planes whether from x-model or other suppliers such as Muller. You will have fun with the Flamingo for a long time though. It is both docile and dynamic for its size (2.85 metre wingspan), well suited for people who have mastered the basic rudder/aileron trainer.

Name: Maxi Mann
Topic: Thank you for ur nice and quick answer....
¤é´Á: 6/9/2001
®É¶¡: 18:34:15

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I jsut visited the hole site of Multiplex and looked at all the models and i am so spoiled that i could buy one just now, but i have a last answer what do u think of x-madels planes, they have a nice thing that is very useful, they construct their planes ready to fly, so u just have to put the servos and the next slope is ready for fun. And can i ask u something else? Do u think that the Flamingo is good for as i sad an intermediate ? the only think i would like is that the plane is not to havy... Maybe u could give mi some hints... Thanks this is so a nice help for me... Maxi

Name: Willy
Topic: Maxi Mann
¤é´Á: 4/9/2001
®É¶¡: 18:33:44

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If you're living in Europe, you're spoiled for choices. I suggest you go for Multiplex Flamingo 2001 for its performance and good value for money once you've mastered the basic rudder/aileron trainer.

Name: Maxi Mann
Topic: Hi I am looking for a nice rcglider for beginner/intermediate
¤é´Á: 4/9/2001
®É¶¡: 3:25:40

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Hi I am german and live in Italy I was interested to now with rc sailplane would be the right one for me i am 19 and have owned a Little star for abou 3 years now and its my favourite Motor/sailplane i am used to flying smal aircrfts about 1.7 to 1.9 m and have good experiance with slope flying and so after a few years of traning at one of the nices soring spots in the world (Wasserkuppe, Hessen) i decided to do the big step and to buy a Rudder/elevator/aileron/and maybe even flaps rcsailplane of a max size of 2.5 m. I am looking for a niece aircraft from witch i can learn to fly with ailerons and flaps, nothing to difficult but you not even a begginers plane so if u could help me i would be very glad.. :-) I looked at these planes: the Multiplex Contest Line - Alpha Club and some X-models planes as the whisper, falcon, blade.... I love "hightech" constructions that are very light and for the wings i like profiles that are ok for slow flying...

Thank you very much for ur help and my compliments for this cool site... :-)

Maxi

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: Order of Hades
¤é´Á: 4/9/2001
®É¶¡: 0:37:50

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Hi folks,

I am going to order some Hades. Is anyone interested? Have a look at

http://www.rcsail.com/Hades.htm

see also the newest version

http://www.rcsail.com/tmp_hades.htm

Is anyone also interested in Shooting Star, I can order a few Shooting Stars to go with Hades.

Let me know at stanley@rcsail.com

Cheers

Name: Willy Lim
Topic: ¤¤¤å¯d¨¥
¤é´Á: 1/9/2001
®É¶¡: 12:36:08

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Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: Chinese Input
¤é´Á: 1/9/2001
®É¶¡: 0:26:07

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Hi Willy, I guess two possibilities: First you might have used the English version of the Leave a Message window to enter text to this forum and when you wrote in Chinese, it only saved as European font. Second, you might have used Chinese input but the characters were not entered directly to the browser, instead you used a copy-and-paste method, then there is a possiblity that copy-and-paste was not functioning correctly, in particular, if your window is non-Chinese version.

Name: Willy Lim
Topic: Robbe Impulse
¤é´Á: 31/8/2001
®É¶¡: 21:18:31

Message

I used to own and fly this aircraft while I was a beginner. It's docile and good looking. The only drawback is that its wing, being the traditional rib structure, doesn't take too much punishment compared with the modern foam core wing.

This makes flight instruction virtually essential. Contact Mr John Chan, or more affectionately known as Uncle Chan, for flight lessons on 2178 2663 or 9626 3809. He is well known in the local soaring community as an experienced instructor.

Name: Willy
Topic: Chinese message
¤é´Á: 31/8/2001
®É¶¡: 21:05:58

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Stanley, please let me know why my Chinese message is garbled. It's just the usual "Chong Kit Shu Yup Fa".

Name: Patrick Lam
Topic: Can't read
¤é´Á: 31/8/2001
®É¶¡: 18:28:32

Message

Dear Willy Lim, could you repost your message, please!

Name: Willy Lim
Topic: ªL¡±B
¤é´Á: 31/8/2001
®É¶¡: 1:45:30

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Name: Mok
Topic: ¤jÁn¥s
¤é´Á: 28/8/2001
®É¶¡: 3:21:17

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Name: Patrick Lam(ªL§B)
Topic: Message from a beginner
¤é´Á: 27/8/2001
®É¶¡: 16:23:42

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Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: Say hello to Stanley Tam
¤é´Á: 24/8/2001
®É¶¡: 23:29:34

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Hi! Stanley Tam, how is your new home in US? I guess you are too busy to settle down and haven't logged any flying time yet. Send us some pictures of your sailplane flying in US later. Would love to see you back sometimes to fly with us. You know we are going to organize some competitions later this year, is this attactive enough to pull you back for a while? Pual recently test-flew his tow plane for thermal soaring in HK, I guess you would like to talk to him about thermal soaring as I believe there are no flyable slopes near where you live, right? Send me your new email address if you can. Keep in touch.

Name: Stanley Tam
Topic: Long Time No See
¤é´Á: 23/8/2001
®É¶¡: 3:13:29

Message

Ha ! Stanley Chan ! Do U know your system down this period. I am so missing HK event and photo.

Far away from US

Stanley

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: System up again
¤é´Á: 19/8/2001
®É¶¡: 23:23:48

Message

Hi, fellow pilots

This web site has been down for few weeks while I was on a trip to Canada. This was probably due to power failure. The machince hosting the site needs manual reset so I was unable to bring up the machine remotely. Now I am back and the system is up again. Please visit us again. Thank you for your continuous support.

Name: Chester Tai
Topic: Call for Foambie Combat test pilot
¤é´Á: 3/8/2001
®É¶¡: 12:32:22

Message

We will test fombie combat contest this Sunday. Pilot who insterest to help, please bring your formbie (EPP) with you.

Thanks Chester

Name: Stanley
Topic: ¾A¦X©ñ·Æµ¾¾÷ªº¦a¤è
¤é´Á: 27/6/2001
®É¶¡: 15:48:54

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Answer to Lau

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Name: Lau
Topic: Urgent !! ½Ð°ÝÃä«×©ñ­¸¾÷³Ì¾A¦X?
¤é´Á: 26/6/2001
®É¶¡: 19:32:47

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Name: MC
Topic: how to make the Futaba go to home positon ?
¤é´Á: 17/6/2001
®É¶¡: 16:29:55

Message

Dear all, I just buy a Futaba S3003 servo, and then using a PIC16F84 IC to control it rotate. ------------------------------------------------- Rotate in clockwise: Time period: 100ms -> 1ms High and 99ms Low continually give 5 pulses (Square waveform). ------------------------------------------------- Rotate in Anti-clockwise: Time period: 100ms -> 2ms High and 98ms Low continually give 5 pulses (Square waveform). ----------------------------------------------- The above setting can make the servo rotate, but the major probelm is that it get a angle shift, after several cycle, its clearly to see that the position is shift.

My problem is: 1. the clock pulse setting is ok or not ? (any suggestion) 2. if there is a home position can set before each time rotate, I think the angle shift problem can be reduce,so ,whats the pulse setting to make it goto home positon?

Thank you very much.

max

PS:Any instruction about this, please send to huck2099@hongkong.com

Name: ®v³Å±ç
Topic: µ¹ No. 2 ªº«H
¤é´Á: 16/6/2001
®É¶¡: 1:05:40

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Name: Chester
Topic: FF9 update (Fwd from 8U list post)
Date: 2001/5/31
Time: ¤U¤È 12:23:44

Message

"Word from Futaba of Japan, and they said the release date has been pushed further to the end of July or the beginning of August."

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: Name of the club
Date: 2001/5/30
Time: ¤U¤È 08:19:36

Message

I have no preference to the name of the club as well, but I think it must be easy to remember and accurate in representing our areas of interest. Since we all use radio control, I guess we also need to have "R/C" within the name to be distinctive from other soaring societies such as paraglider club.

I guess the name "Hong Kong R/C Soaring Association" has been used by Uncle Chan and was at least printed in his van. Otherwise this name would be a good choice.

Although we may go ahead to form the club once we have 20 members, we need to thumb up more support so that the club will be more representative, please ask your glider friends to show their supports. Thanks.

Stanley

Name: Willy Lim
Topic: Club Name
Date: 2001/5/30
Time: ¤U¤È 06:48:50

Message

I agree with BEGINNER that the name of the proposed club should be distinctive and be different from say, the Clearwater Bay Golf and Country Club.

But as to the acronym of the name, I am of the view that so long as the name itself is graceful, authoritative and distinctive, it doesn't matter that the acronym also refers to other organisations. BEGINNER seems to take a different view as he is entitled to.

STANLEY and BEGINNER, my personal favourite names are Hong Kong Soaring Association (HKSA) and Hong Kong Soaring Society (HKSS). Unavoidably these 2 acronyms may refer to other things. If you two are concerned about this, how about Hong Kong Society of Aero SoaRers (roughly HKSOAR) or simply Society of Aero SoaRers (SOAR)?

Name: INTERMEDIATE
Topic: Club name
Date: 2001/5/29
Time: ¤U¤È 08:27:39

Message

I too have no particular preference for name, as long as it is decent and distinguishable from others. Having said that we really have no control over the acronym of the name referring to things other than the name itself. A good example is if someone's initial is M. F. You can't stop people from saying that it also means Mother F**ker.

Name: Willy Lin
Topic: Club name
Date: 2001/5/29
Time: ¤U¤È 04:52:25

Message

I agree with what Willy Lim said. Frankly, it doesn't really bother me. Whether it is HKRGC, HKRGS, HKRCGC, or HKRCSC. Doesn't really matter. Willy Lin. (member of HKRGC).

Name: Willy Lim
Topic: Club name
Date: 2001/5/29
Time: ¤W¤È 09:40:49

Message

If HKRGC is not OK, how about Hong Kong Soaring Association (HKSA) or Hong Kong Soaring Society (HKSS)? The problem with HKSA is that it is also the acronym of the Hong Kong Society of Accountants. Frankly, this doesn't bother me, just like AMA, the Academy of Model Aeronautics is not troubled by the American Medical Association sharing the same acronym.

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: Membership fee
Date: 2001/5/29
Time: ¤W¤È 01:05:54

Message

It seems that a few pilots have questions related to the membership fee, let me give a brief explanation:

Although the club is a non-profit organization, it still needs financial resource to run its functions. In fact, I believe income from only membership fee is not sufficient, we need to organize some income-driving activities as well, such as running a training course.

Examples of the expenses include:

Annual registration fee for the club under Hong Kong authority and any other professional fee required Cost of sponsored events, e.g., cost of trophies, travelling expense for sponsored competitors, etc Cost for the producing a bi-annual newsletter for its members or any printed leaflets, e.g. safety guideline, etc Cost of organizing social functions, e.g., sponsor of study tour or international exchange/visit Cost of receiving important international guests Insurance cost for third-part damage Web hosting fee (if any) Material cost for day-to-day running of the club At last (hope but far more expensive), cost of leasing\aqucuring\keeping our permanent flying ground!

Let make it clear that all office bearers are on voluntee basis to serve and they won't get paid from the club. The club account should be controlled by the Chairman, Vice Chair and Treasurer (at least two of them are needed to sign in the cheque for any expense claimed) and I believe the officers should be elected annually with a maximum of one extra term in office - these are all details that we need to write down in the bylaw.

In order for the club to be successful, self-sustain and long lasting, we have to run it professionally - it is very important

Stanley

Name: BEGINNER
Topic: Name is somehow important
Date: 2001/5/28
Time: ¤U¤È 12:00:21

Message

Name gives the Club uniqueness. I think the point is simple and clear. Why everyboby has name? Say, may I call myself Willy Lim or Master Leung. Or, if I produce sport shoes, should I call my shoes Nike or Addidas. Why Andy Lee came out to declare that he was not No.2? Willy, think about it first :-)

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: The prospective club
Date: 2001/5/27
Time: ¤U¤È 10:17:46

Message

It is interesting to know someone knew that RGC stands for research grant council, as it is better known in the academic circle. Of course I knew about this, but this is only my suggestion, you are welcome to suggest any relevant name. Basically I believe, the name should reflect the area of our interest, i.e., R/C gliders including electric versions but not the grow power airplanes - I hope everybody agree with that.

I think once we got about 20 signatures for support, we can formally start to setup the club. But we hope that we can get as many members as possible because the club will be more representative and also financially more healthy.

Get into more detail on the responsibilities of the club officers: The roles of the 4 major officers, namely chairman, vice chair, treasurer and secretary are well defined. Other officers we have in mind are having the responsibilities as:

Publicity - responsible for promoting the club activities, maintaining the club's web site, producing newsletters (if any)

Competition - responsible for organizing all kinds of competitions

Social functions - responsible for organizing social functions for our club members, such as study tour, get together barbecue, etc.

Training - responsible for organizing short courses for new comers, producing training material, e.g., video shows

We can also invite some well-known senior pilots as our advisors.

The above is only my suggestion, you are welcome to propose more if you see fit.

I hope once we got enough supports we will have a get-together meeting to sort out the details and let go!

Stanley

Name: Willy Lim
Topic: HKRGC
Date: 2001/5/27
Time: ¤U¤È 08:24:19

Message

Well, BMW stands for both Bavarian Motor Works and Break My Wallet. So it doesn't matter that HKRGC also means things other than the proposed club.

Name: BEGINNER
Topic: HKRGC
Date: 2001/5/27
Time: ¤U¤È 07:50:55

Message

Hi All, may I remind you that Hong Kong RGC, this short name is used by the Hong Kong Research Grant Council.

Name: BEGINNER
Topic: HKRGC
Date: 2001/5/27
Time: ¤U¤È 07:50:26

Message

Hi All, may I remind you that Hong Kong RGC, this short name is used by the Hong Kong Research Grant Council.

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: The prospective R/C club
Date: 2001/5/24
Time: ¤U¤È 06:25:20

Message

As promised, a separated page for gathering information on forming the club was created.

http://www.rcsail.com/survey.html

Please help to give your comments and supports to this endeavour.

Stanley

Name: Bevan Jones
Topic: ZAGI's
Date: 2001/5/24
Time: ¤U¤È 04:49:06

Message

Can anyone tell me where to buy Zagi's in Hong Kong.

Thanks, Bevan

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: On forming a r/c soaring club
Date: 2001/5/23
Time: ¤U¤È 11:16:04

Message

Willy

That is a good idea! I am going to make a survey form in the web and let people fill in their names, intentions to join the club, membership fee they can accept, etc. There will be a whole bunch of questions they need to answer!

I will do the form as soon as time allows.

Cheers

Stanley

Name: Willy Lim
Topic: The prospective club
Date: 2001/5/23
Time: ¤U¤È 09:30:32

Message

Stanley,

I agree with your comments and your pragmatic views on the government's attitude to the allocation of radio frequencies.

Back to your proposal to form a club, may I suggest that, since the response on this forum to your proposal has been encouraging, you devote a separate page on this site for people to express their interest and sign on as provisional members. The articles can come later, as is the formalisation of the club.

Willy

mailto:willylim@onebox.com

Name: No 2
Topic: To Weely, ??No 1??
Date: 2001/5/23
Time: ¤U¤È 02:11:10

Message

Oh! Weely, you get it wrong totally. You didn't start the flame as you said. Who do you think you are? Do you think you are No 1. This is none of your business. This is between me and the hyprocrite!!

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: R/C Frequencies and the club
Date: 2001/5/23
Time: ¤W¤È 02:03:15

Message

I totally agree with Willy in lobbying the government for releasing the R/C frequency bands - but to be practical, it is almost impossible, as there are no such a nice government in the world that is willing to release all bands. We may be able to get a few more frequencies on 72MHz or on 40 MHz, but that all. Also, it is not just our small effort that can make the government listens. We need to unite all R/C people from, car, heli, boat so on .. and is practically impossible.

For the time being, I am happy to see the Government's lazy-fare attitude in enforcing the R/C bands - this give us more freedom in the choice of frequency but, of course, we have to enforce our own rule of frequency sharing in time among us. Anyway, let postpone talking about this far away issue until the club was formed.

Back to topic on the formation of the club: I have searched through the web and found out some useful bylaws on some R/C related clubs. Have a look!

http://www.geocities.com/tarcg/asso.html http://www.sloperacing.com/Info/ASRO BY LAWS.pdf

I think we do not need an over-complicate one, but it must be concise and accurate. Any comment and suggestion on our maybe bylaw are welcome. If anyone has experience in forming a R/C club, we would like to listen to your experience. Chester and I will initially help to consolidate your comments. Thanks.

Stanley

Name: Willy Lim
Topic: The flame over safe flying
Date: 2001/5/23
Time: ¤W¤È 12:59:32

Message

To all those involved in the flame,

It's my message of 30/4/01 that sparks the flame, so let me try to put it out.

After reading No.2's various messages, I am of the impression that he, too, agrees that model flying should be conducted safely and responsibly. So at least all parties are in agreement on this crucial issue. The rest is simply squabbling over some trivial matters, costing precious bandwidth and air time.

In the circumstances, would all parties please consider this debate as over, and cease using inflammatory languages. Conduct of this kind may bring r/c soaring in Hong Kong into disrepute in the eye of the foreign visitors to this board.

Thanks in advance,

Willy

mailto:willylim@onebox.com

Name: Willy Lim
Topic: Radio frequency
Date: 2001/5/23
Time: ¤W¤È 12:35:45

Message

Chester,

I note your concerns over my proposal for the club to ask OFTA to allocate more frequencies for modelling use.

If I were to do it, I'll seek the legalisation of all bands that we use, including 29, 35, 36, 40, 41, 60, 75 in addition to 27 and 72 Mhz, and see which of these, if any, will be made available by OFTA. Those who wish to be law abiding citizens can then fly with these frequencies with peace of mind, perhaps after obtaining and paying for a licence. By the way, I do have a licence issued by OFTA in respect of my 72Mhz Futaba FF8 system. There were no studying and exam involved, only filling in forms and paying an annual fee of HK$55.00. The club shall of course lobby for the abolishment of the licence requirement for all model frequencies, making lives easier for all. At present, according to the subsidiary legislation attached to the Telecommunication Ordinance, only the bands in 27Mhz are licence free for modelling use.

I think most modellers don't want to fly with illegal frequencies and thereby committing crimes every time they fly, if they have a choice of legal frequencies.

Willy

mailto:willylim@onebox.com

Name: Rayman Wong
Topic: To No 2
Date: 2001/5/22
Time: ¤U¤È 09:01:44

Message

I really want to meet you face to face and kick the shit out of mouth!

Name: No.2
Topic: To Andy Lee
Date: 2001/5/22
Time: ¤U¤È 08:26:11

Message

Come on to kill me I am waiting

Name: BEGINNER
Topic: Prospective Club
Date: 2001/5/22
Time: ¤U¤È 06:59:17

Message

Hi All Pilots

I am very happy to hear that there will be a Club of Sailplane Pilots. May I be the first one to join.

Name: Angry Man
Topic: To the pussy No2
Date: 2001/5/22
Time: ¤U¤È 06:38:09

Message

As you said. It is actually not of your business. I think Master Leung DON'T need the help of a pussy cat!

Name: Chester
Topic: 3rd party insurance
Date: 2001/5/22
Time: ¤U¤È 06:29:45

Message

In the past Mr. Chan have introduce 3rd party insurance for personal. That means you have to buy your own insurance for your self, like for a private car.

Or, like AMA, the club will buy a group insurance for their members, however there are rules that govern the incsurance, like for a public bus.

We will find out more details and let you know.

Chester

Name: Kevin
Topic: 3rd party insurance
Date: 2001/5/22
Time: ¤U¤È 06:23:01

Message

I want to hear more about 3rd party insurance!!

Name: Kevin
Topic: To No:2.............Personal Hatre
Date: 2001/5/22
Time: ¤U¤È 06:21:07

Message

No:2 ! I think you better don't post your personal hatre on this public site. Only COWARDS do this kind of things. If you hate that guy, GO to him directly. Do not encourage "do it if you want" attitude. Pilots shouldn't like that!!

Name: Andy Lee
Topic: To Mr No.2
Date: 2001/5/22
Time: ¤U¤È 06:01:00

Message

Pls don't use my nickname on this site. If I know who are you I will kill you. Don't let me know asshold.

Name: Chester
Topic: RE:Priorities of the prospective Club
Date: 2001/5/22
Time: ¤U¤È 05:50:07

Message

Thanks Willy, Stanley and I studing some club rules from the states and your links are very useful.

To fight for more legal freq. is good, however will be complicate. I may spent a lot of money to change my radio equipments :^). Also pliot may required liscence like HAM radio.

3rd party insurance, however is a must I think. But depends the interest of insurance company.

Welcome you advise, I looking forward for the sucessful of our club.

Chester

Name: Andy Lee
Topic: ¼á²M±Ò¨Æ
Date: 2001/5/22
Time: ¤U¤È 05:40:19

Message

I have a nickname is No.2 but I am not this No.2

Name: No 2
Topic: To Mr Kim
Date: 2001/5/22
Time: ¤U¤È 05:25:09

Message

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Name: Willy Lim
Topic: Priorities of the prospective Club
Date: 2001/5/22
Time: ¤U¤È 01:58:27

Message

1. Present a united front to the Office of the Telecommunication Authority (OFTA) and fight for more frequencies for model flying. At present, only the bands in 27 Mhz and 2 bands in 72 Mhz are legally allowed for modelling. We should fight for more.

2. Arrange 3rd party insurance cover for all club members using the legal radio frequencies.

I'll be pleased to help. I've in the past wrote to OFTA about (1) above but was told that it required an amendment to the legislation. A club certainly speaks louder than the single voice of myself and has a greater chance of drawing the attention of OFTA.

Willy

mailto:willylim@onebox.com

Name: Ng Ming
Topic: Safety Flying Attitude
Date: 2001/5/22
Time: ¤U¤È 01:53:46

Message

It's been a time not visiting this Forum. I feel wonderful that there is an hot topic discussion happened here. It posts an open and fair discussion area for people especially for sailplane pilot in Hong Kong expressing their point of idea. Now, it becomes an argument. We should clam up to think about an "Win Win" proposal that every body could share the fun in flying field and save from the danger of life and injury. As a participant in this activite, I myself would very happy to see a well organized flying club set up in Hong Kong but every one have their right to share the same enviornment. We are unable to regulate No.2's style in the flying field. I am thinking what we can do is to demonstrate SAFETY FLYING ATTITUDE to audience and other fellow pilot.

Name: Angry Man
Topic: Safety Flying Attitude
Date: 2001/5/22
Time: ¤U¤È 01:48:18

Message

Thumb up for safety!!

Name: Willy Lim
Topic: Forming a Club
Date: 2001/5/22
Time: ¤W¤È 09:58:52

Message

Stanley,

If you're talking about Articles, then it seems you're going to do it properly and professionally. If so, you may find it worthwhile to visit the web sites of the British Model Flying Association (http://www.bmfa.org), the governing body of the sport in the UK, and the British Association of Radio Controlled Soarers (see http://www.barcs.co.uk) and refer to their structures, rules and articles, etc.

I assume that for historical reason, British precedents such as their club rules, regulations and articles are of higher reference value to us than the US ones.

Willy Lim mailto:willylim@onebox.com

Name: Chester
Topic: Ultra ligh power plane?!
Date: 2001/5/21
Time: ¤U¤È 09:37:12

Message

Take a break on flame....

visit and have fun http://www.flypower.com/blueprints.html

Cheers

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: Please join us to fly safe
Date: 2001/5/21
Time: ¤U¤È 09:25:50

Message

Hi, fellow pilots,

It seems getting out of hand as the discussion about safety flying is going on. Please! No mater what flying style you are, SAFTY must be kept at any cost! Mr. No 2, you possibly have a taste to show off your flying skill. Instead of threatening people nearby, I recommend you to join us to put your skill into right use via organized activities.

Last Saturday, we have a group of pilots sat down discussing about forming a glider club in Hong Kong. We are all very enthusiastic about this. As you possibly know that the R/C soaring association formed by Uncle Chan is inactive for a long time, so some of us are getting confused as we do not have an official club for organizing activities.

Now it is time for us to do something! How do we start? We would possibly work out the article of association for the club first, then post it up for comments. Any suggestion?

So far, a few pilots have suggested that we should organize the following activities after the club was formed: Air show for scale gliders Man-on-Man racing for 60¡¨ and open-class sailplanes F3F slope races (ultimately, we hope to have a Hong Kong team to participate in international events!)

Please join us with more discussions on forming the club

Stanley

Name: T. Y. Kim
Topic: Flying Attitude
Date: 2001/5/21
Time: ¤U¤È 08:21:47

Message

Mr. 2, your various replies to Kevin has now shown that you are coward to stand out and wants to hide away. You should not take this RC planes as a your hobby.. It is not suitable for you. It is for good people.. and thanks to Stanely who put up this page to expose YOU. Kim

Name: No.2
Topic: To Kevin
Date: 2001/5/21
Time: ¤U¤È 07:24:02

Message

You won't know me never.

Name: I am No 2
Topic: Very good
Date: 2001/5/21
Time: ¤U¤È 07:15:31

Message

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Name: Kevin
Topic: Who's No:2??
Date: 2001/5/21
Time: ¤U¤È 01:53:32

Message

Actually, who's No:2? Male or Female? Have photos at this sites? Tell me so that next time when he is flying, I will go somewhere.

Name: Kevin
Topic: Safety flying attitude
Date: 2001/5/21
Time: ¤U¤È 01:35:37

Message

While you guys are talking about safety, i want to ask if accidents happen, say a spectator is killed by a plane, what are the legal consequences.

Name: T. Y. Kim
Topic: Flying  Attitude
Date: 2001/5/21
Time: ¤W¤È 05:22:28

Message

Mr. 2, your flying attitude is selfish, uneducated and unsafe. If you insist to fly in your own way without showing your respect to your fellow pilots, you better fly at your own home. Lucky I live in Singapore and not in Hongkong.

Name: Chester
Topic: More FF9 info
Date: 2001/5/20
Time: ¤U¤È 10:53:48

Message

http://www.jason.net/Fair0501.htm

Name: Peter
Topic: Safety flying attitude
Date: 2001/5/19
Time: ¤U¤È 03:34:09

Message

No:2 do you like people flying their planes around your head. Be considerate!

Name: Teo
Topic: Safety Flying Attitude
Date: 2001/5/19
Time: ¤U¤È 01:22:30

Message

I totally disagree with N0.2's attitude. As a pilot, you should consider others' safety. You can fly with whatever styles you like BUT consider others' safety FIRST. It is very disappointed to see COWBOYS flying!!!!

Name: Chester
Topic: New FF9
Date: 2001/5/17
Time: ¤U¤È 09:51:30

Message

Take a look on the new Futaba FF9:

http://www.natew.com/tmp/T9CAP.jpg

Cheers Chester

Name: No Body
Topic: Safety Flying Attitude
Date: 2001/5/14
Time: ¤W¤È 02:04:23

Message

I am quite disagree with No.2's point of view in safety flying. Flying style and safety flying are two different things. If you want to share your experience with some one else, you should know where the starting point is and what the sort of pilot's attitude is. For example, the one who just cheer the audience without considering the safety of third party is wrong.

Let me tell you the truth that flying condition is changing. No body can quarantee an 100% confidence during their "killing approach". As recalled from Willy's statement, we should keep a "safety margin" on the top of your flying skill.

Name: No: 2
Topic: What is safety fly? To Robert Yan.
Date: 2001/5/12
Time: ¤U¤È 08:21:44

Message

Every body has his flying style. Don't to restrain. Take care your salf!

Name: Peter
Topic: JR 3810, Sanwa (Airtronics RD6000) and Futaba 8UAPS
Date: 2001/5/11
Time: ¤W¤È 12:37:22

Message

Hi,

I am planning to visit Hong Kong next weekend and wanted to do a little comparision shopping of the above mentioned radios. What's the typical retail cost for these radios w/ standard servos in Hong Kong? Where are some good shops that carry these brands in Hong Kong (that's not too far from Kowloon or close to MTR stations)

Thanks Peter

Name: Willy Lim
Topic: Metal Box & Lamp Posts in Jat's Incline, Fei Ngo Shan.
Date: 2001/4/30
Time: ¤U¤È 08:34:52

Message

I respectfully disagree with the view expressed by the website owner in relation to the above objects.

By definition, these objects are located on the road and extend to cover only the airspace immediate above it, area which in any event is a "no fly zone" due to the hazards to fellow pilots and road users. I therefore cannot see how they can pose any threat to those who fly responsibly out in the open and land on the slope with a safety margin between the road and the landing spot.

Those who choose to fly on or close to the road (and land on the slope so close to the road that there is little or no safety margin) in complete disregard of the safety of other pilots and road users are of course entitled to take a different view.

Thumbs up to the government for installing the metal box and the lamp posts which not only light up the road at night, but also serve as a deterrent to dangerous flying.

Willy Multiplex ASH26 (4m), Robbe ASW27 (3.5m), Graupner DISCUS 2b (4.5m)

Name: Chester
Topic: Re: Letter from America
Date: 2001/4/23
Time: ¤W¤È 10:08:08

Message

Feel free to e-mail me : chestert@pacific.net.hk

I have read your excellent webpage before I start soaring.

Cheers Chester

Name: Robert Yan
Topic: Letter from America
Date: 2001/4/20
Time: ¤W¤È 11:20:04

Message

I have received an email from Al Nephew, USA, mentioning names Chester Tai, Jackie Cheung, and Raymond Wong. Can I have your email addresses or shall I post it here? Robert

Name: Master Leung
Topic: Thanks  for Robert Yan
Date: 2001/4/19
Time: ¤U¤È 11:25:45

Message

Please don't make my mistake. Glider is not just a toy i had said before and it has hidden danger. I do not want to "show off" my skill. I just enjoy myself in a safety condition. no wind, no crowd of people and pilots. And i had seen the accidents not less than you. So i always keep alert when i am playing. Anyway i thank you for your advice.

Name: Daniel Gut
Topic: DG 600  and Nimbus 3.3
Date: 2001/4/19
Time: ¤U¤È 06:26:24

Message

To Andy Chan I am interested in both these models and would like to know from you which you prefer and a few details and characteristics. I presume that most of your flying is slope soaring and I would be mostly highstarting the glider that I get. Any help would be appreciated.

Many Thanks

Daniel Gut Switzerland

Name: Robert Yan
Topic: Safety First.
Date: 2001/4/19
Time: ¤U¤È 06:11:33

Message

RC Sailplane flying is a hobby the pilot and the onlookers will enjoy. Noboy will like to see accidents happened to his plane, himself, the onlookers and other properties. Do not "show off" and do not fly carelessly. Model pilots should observe all the safety precautions as the real flying. I have witnessed 3 accidents, 2 happened at CWB and one in FNS. Two ended up in hospital with a fractured skull. A 4m sailplane headon hit the forehead of a 14 year old boy just an inch above his right ear. The boy was at the far side of the main road at CWB. Please fly safely at all times. Happy Flying and Safe Landing. Robert

Name: ®v³Å±ç
Topic: ¤â±µ­¸¾÷
Date: 2001/4/19
Time: ¤W¤È 03:54:34

Message

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Name: Kevin Lam
Topic: To Andy Chan
Date: 2001/4/10
Time: ¤W¤È 12:07:56

Message

What sim are you using? email me at kkhlam@yahoo.com I hope I can help you to figure out the problem

Name: andy chan
Topic: idle 1 and idle 2 data
Date: 2001/4/8
Time: ¤U¤È 09:59:43

Message

I have inputted the idle1 and idle2 pitch curve and th curve data in the Futaba remote control but it cannot work in the simulator. Do any one know what I need to do for 3d simulation.

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: Soaring can heal the illness
Date: 2001/4/5
Time: ¤U¤È 11:49:37

Message

Hi Robert, glad to know you share my view that soaring can heal illness and I am sure many pilots here have the same view. Now I am almost fully recovered and thank to this most healthy sport that we share.

Stanley

Name: Robert Yan
Topic: Addicted to Soaring
Date: 2001/4/5
Time: ¤U¤È 07:35:01

Message

Message to Stanley Chan. I do agree with you that flying gliders will heal your illness. I flew at Fei Ngo Shan with a hleper who carried my plane to the hill top 7 days after a major operation. Of course, I was the pilot and I was fully recovered after a safe landing. Keep it up, bring your wife to the hill. Bring some fruit to share with other wives. Hope you are now fully recovered. Happy Landing. Robert Yan

Name: Robert Yan
Topic: Wind Speed for slope soaring.
Date: 2001/4/5
Time: ¤U¤È 07:26:22

Message

In Hongkong depending on the slope. In Fei Ngo Shan, if it is South wind above 8 km/hr min. is comfortable for general flying. In Fei Ngo Shan, it it is East Wind, above 10 km/hr. In Clear Water Bay, East Wind, above 10 km/hr for general large span models but at least 12 km/hr for fast aerobatics models.

Name: KEvin
Topic: wind speed
Date: 2001/4/5
Time: ¤U¤È 12:05:22

Message

Hello,

When I check the weather information of HK, there shows me the wind speed. Could you please tell me how many km/h wind speed is required for slope flying? thks

Name: CharlesSchwab
Topic: Helicopter
Date: 2001/3/31
Time: ¤U¤È 07:47:41

Message

Hi guys anyone knows where in Hong Kong Island can I find a piece of land where I can fly my helicopter safely?? Your help appriciated!!

Name: Chester
Topic: Real Hovering ?
Date: 2001/3/26
Time: ¤U¤È 08:22:06

Message

Yeap! four tanks of fuel. And can hover at 1 meter high stablely. Nearly crashed bcos of a broken tail pitch horn........but safty landed by Big Fai.....

Cheers Chester

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: Real Hovering ?
Date: 2001/3/25
Time: ¤U¤È 11:52:31

Message

Hi Chester,

You did it on the simulator or on the real one? Congratulation!

Name: Chester
Topic: R/C helicopter simulator
Date: 2001/3/25
Time: ¤U¤È 10:54:09

Message

Take you to hovering.... I can hover my first heli today.... cheers Chester

Name: andy chan
Topic: R/C helicopter simulator
Date: 2001/3/23
Time: ¤U¤È 01:21:08

Message

Dear all,

I have brought a CMS V10 last week. It is only $950 in Kung Sing at Mong Kok. The shoppers all are kind and help me much. I find the prize is cheaper than other shop.

Name: Andy Chan
Topic: Helicopter simulator
Date: 2001/3/23
Time: ¤U¤È 01:16:01

Message

I have brought a CSM V10 simulator last week. It is only $950 in Kung Sing at Mong Kok. The shop keepers all are kind and helpful. I also found that the price of other items are cheaper then other shops.

Name: andy chan
Topic: R/C helicopter simulator
Date: 2001/3/23
Time: ¤U¤È 01:07:45

Message

Dear all,

I have brought a CMS V10 last week. It is only $950 in Kung Sing at Mong Kok. The shoppers all are kind and help me much. I find the prize is cheaper than other shop.

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: ¦hÁ¼¢°Ý
Date: 2001/3/20
Time: ¤W¤È 01:08:50

Message

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Name: ®v³Å±ç
Topic: ¤p¤ß¨­Åé
Date: 2001/3/19
Time: ¤U¤È 11:32:31

Message

HI Stanley, ±o±x§Aªñ¨Ó©ê®~,¨­Åé¥i¦n,½Ð¤p¤ß¨­Åé°·±d,À³¦h§@¹B°Ê¤Î©ñ·Æµ¾¾÷,¦ÛµM¤£ÃĦÓ¡o

Name: Javi G-T
Topic: Pilatus B4
Date: 2001/3/18
Time: ¤W¤È 03:29:15

Message

Stanley, thank you very much for your accurate and swift response. I´ll get the plane.

Javi

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: Multiplex Pilatus B4
Date: 2001/3/17
Time: ¤U¤È 10:35:49

Message

I would say Pilatus B4 is a pleasant flyer but its aerobatic capability is much better than other scaled gliders of similar size. It can be flown very fast as it has an RG14 airfoil but you can also fly it slowly. Mind you that the orignal pitch angle in the T-tail elevator set by manufacturer is a bit too positive so the ship generally can not be flown fast. This may be the intention of the manufacturer. But if you modify the pitch angle correctly, it really goes FAST!

Personally I like Pilatus B4 as compared to other scaled gliders I own. I even used this ship to race with some high-performance 60" molded racers once and it wasn't slow!

Hope you enjoy flying this wonderful ship.

Stanley

Name: Javi G-T
Topic: Advice needed about Multiplex PILATUS B4
Date: 2001/3/17
Time: ¤W¤È 07:20:50

Message

I have the opportunity of acquiring a 2nd-hand Multiplex PILATUS B4. I've read it's a 'pleasant flyer with good aerobatics capability'. The question is if this plane can really be flown pleasantly and even slowly, or it's a pure and fast aerobatics machine. I like relaxed flying and I'm not sure about this plane.

Stanley, hope you found a solution for your wing joiner. Best regards from Spain, Javi

Name: Kevin Lam
Topic: RC Simulator
Date: 2001/3/15
Time: ¤W¤È 12:25:55

Message

I have used CSM V9 and then V10 for few years. Although just only very simple texture of fields and planes are viewed, the flying feeling is quite real to me both heli and powered aeroplane compared with other expensive simulators I have tried. I got these from UK directly but now you may try to look it up at www.cyberheli.com where I have seen it recently.

But I suggest that if you only want to use simulator for aeroplane flying, not heli, you better use the free one FMS that Chester suggested. I have also tried it few months ago and I found that the powered aeroplane flying is very realistic too and of course it provides much better texture of planes than CSM. Most important, we can made the chaep interface ourselves and save some bucks for buying new planes!

Good luck

Name: Chester
Topic: CSM simulator software
Date: 2001/3/12
Time: ¤U¤È 06:09:20

Message

The CSM priced around $1,600 HKD.

I can make some cable at around $50.00. But don't rush me.

Cheers Chester

Name: andy
Topic: CSM simulator software
Date: 2001/3/11
Time: ¤U¤È 07:27:20

Message

Dear chester,

Thank you for your help but the interface seems hard to make. Do you know where to buy the CSM simulator is the cheapest. Thank you.

Andy

Name: Chester
Topic: Futaba Interface for CSM simulator
Date: 2001/3/10
Time: ¤U¤È 10:56:49

Message

No! No! No! You can only buy the orginal CSM with Cable.....

However, there are FREE stuff. Take a lot at :

http://www.heliguy.com/nexus/fms.html http://www.heliguy.com/nexus/fmsinterface.html

Cheers Chester

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: Dynamic soaring in Hong Kong
Date: 2001/3/10
Time: ¤W¤È 12:58:11

Message

Hello, Hong Kong soarers.

I want to ask all of you a question why there are not many RC soaring pilots here interested in dynamic soaring although we have lots of easy accessable slopes for DSing. You probably know that DSing is a very hot activity in US and in other places in the world. The excitement of DSing your plane in high speed without an engine is really amazing. But why you are not so interested in? Is DSing too dangerous and you don't want to risk damaging your plane or some other reasons?

Your comment is very much appreciated

Stanley

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: Futaba Interface for CSM simulator
Date: 2001/3/9
Time: ¤U¤È 11:33:48

Message

Hi I think Chester know how to do it. He has mentioned to me that he got an electronic circuit for it and is very easy to build.

Hello Chester, can you let us have your circuit?

Name: andy chan
Topic: the computer interface and Futaba remote cord
Date: 2001/3/9
Time: ¤W¤È 06:17:54

Message

Do any one know where to buy or how to make the computer interface for CSM9.1 simulator.

Name: andy chan
Topic: the computer interface and Futaba remote cord
Date: 2001/3/9
Time: ¤W¤È 06:11:36

Message

Do any one know where to buy or how to make the computer interface for CSM9.1 simulator.

Name: Fishhead
Topic: RE: covering EPP model....
Date: 2001/3/3
Time: ¤U¤È 10:22:55

Message

Hi... I would like to know which covering material is best for EPP foam wings and fuselage.

Name: ®v³Å±ç
Topic: ºÖ»Pº×
Date: 2001/2/23
Time: ¤W¤È 12:30:17

Message

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Name: Stanley
Topic: ¥²¦³«áºÖ
Date: 2001/2/21
Time: ¤U¤È 10:53:13

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Name: peter wade
Topic: pss
Date: 2001/2/21
Time: ¤U¤È 07:31:35

Message

Hey guys, check out this new website from Paul Janssens : WWW.pjmodelclassics.be Have fun !

Name: ®v³Å±ç
Topic: ¦º¹Lµf¥Í
Date: 2001/2/21
Time: ¤W¤È 01:19:54

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Name: Kevin Lam
Topic: to Andy
Date: 2001/2/18
Time: ¤U¤È 06:45:35

Message

Thanks Andy, I will try to buy the GWS 6V battery pack for my brand new shooting star.

Name: Andy
Topic: To Kevin
Date: 2001/2/18
Time: ¤U¤È 03:37:39

Message

3103 Can use 6V

Name: Kevin
Topic: futaba 3103 rated at 6V?
Date: 2001/2/17
Time: ¤W¤È 12:28:00

Message

any damage or derating on Futaba 3103 if Rx rated at 6v battery? Thanks

Name: ¤lºû(Branco)
Topic: RC Scale directory
Date: 2001/1/24
Time: ¤W¤È 12:23:04

Message

Hi! Stanley,

Do u have the following link, please add it: http://www.vincent.redhotant.com/

Name: Chester
Topic: RE:Buzzer recommendation wanted
Date: 2001/1/16
Time: ¤U¤È 06:15:27

Message

Let see how buzzer works.

First, reciver sent continous pulse to control servos when receiving radio signal. Even when no stick movement, this pulse keeps going to maintan the servo in central position. Most buzzer detect when no pulse comes out from receiver and turns buzzer on. The loudness depends the buzzer itself. However dual tone buzzer are more easy to hear when the surround are noisely.

Those buzzer do not works with PCM receiver, since PCM receiver keeps sending signal to servo no matter radio signal present or not.

There are two common method the activite buzzer with PCM receiver: Remote control on/off switch and timer.

Remote control on/off switch simply occupy one channels to turn the buzzer on and off. However, it may fail if your plane falls because of radio problem.

Timing device works by presets a certain delay to turn buzzer on after power on. Or more advance will base on the time of no changing control state for a certain channels (mostly monitor aileron: CH1).

On the market, low priced buzzer such as GWS or buzzer from me or Mr. Chan are for non-PCM receiver. Some will even detect low battery. IMO, it only helps for pre-flight check.

For PCM receiver, JR do works but the price is high and hard to find.

Normally gilder fellows not like to using PCM receiver, which is much heavier and expensive.

Hope this helps. Happy Landing Chester

Name: Stanley Tam
Topic: Multiplex's MultiLock
Date: 2001/1/2
Time: ¤U¤È 10:52:47

Message

Stanley Chan,

I have one spare, if you want I can bring it to you on this Sat.

Name: Kevin Lam
Topic: Buzzer recommendation wanted
Date: 2001/1/2
Time: ¤U¤È 05:33:47

Message

Dear Fellow Pilots,

Could you please recommend me where I can get a LOUD, reliable buzzer (BB)? How much does it cost usually? Can it be installed with PCM gear?

Thank you!!

Kevin Lam