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 Post subject: 大陸機
PostPosted: 08 Nov 2004 09:36 pm 
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尋日同內地既滑翔機發燒友上馬鞍山﹐佢地從未飛過山坡﹐見到個場都話好正。佢地帶左兩隻 mold 機落黎﹐一隻係神州史汀﹐另一隻係下面既 2m sport機﹕

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呢隻機係河南省洛陽市一個前專業隊成員生產 [url]http://www.rich8.com/8/shop/spfl_list.php?wdid=radar&Part=10&biao=3&spfl=完成机[/url] 。上次同佢買隻神州史汀﹐D質素差到暈﹐但呢隻2m機就都叫OK。佢話呢隻機係出口去美國﹐我係 Quiet Flyer雜誌同網上都見過呢隻機http://advancedmodelproducts.com/AMP/product_info.php/products_id/28?osCsid=462227838964d849f697ce3077ade161 不過價錢就離晒大譜﹐真係搵鬼買。個廠家話有批俾個 dealer reject 左既貨係度﹐只係有少少暇疵﹐平賣 650 人民幣﹐我睇過我朋友個隻﹐D暇疵真係唔多。隻機唔算高性能﹐但完全無不良脾性﹐大家有興趣可以考慮整隻飛下。

內地朋友對山坡滑翔很感興趣
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朋友飛隻神州史汀個陣抽得太應﹐隻機入 flat spin, 跌左落山。唔執過機未算飛過山坡﹐兩位內地朋友今次都對呢方面有非常深刻既體會
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隻史汀只係機頭入面個 servo mount 斷左﹐好彩我帶晒所有急修材料﹐隻機半個鐘後又再飛過
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PostPosted: 08 Nov 2004 10:38 pm 

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I want to buy it, should I order it on the website? Many mnay thanks!


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PostPosted: 08 Nov 2004 10:54 pm 
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WingDragon wrote:
I want to buy it, should I order it on the website? Many mnay thanks!


你可以俾個電郵個廠家(要用中文)﹐安排點樣送貨同付款。我有兩個朋友都話有興趣﹐如果集齊買可以節省一D郵費﹐但都唔會好多﹐因為大陸既郵費真係平到唔信。

隻機係平﹐但大家要有心理準備既係批機講明係次貨﹐雖然我見過個隻係OK﹐未必隻隻係咁﹐如果好似隻神州史汀咁就真係暈係度。


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PostPosted: 08 Nov 2004 11:32 pm 

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Thank you for your reply, I think this is a bargain.


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PostPosted: 09 Nov 2004 07:56 pm 
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Hi
Y C 嗰隻神州史汀你會唔會訂番隻呢?如果會,順便幫我訂番隻,用嚟練習 Landing 嘛。 Thx


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Y C Lui wrote:
WingDragon wrote:
I want to buy it, should I order it on the website? Many mnay thanks!


你可以俾個電郵個廠家(要用中文)﹐安排點樣送貨同付款。我有兩個朋友都話有興趣﹐如果集齊買可以節省一D郵費﹐但都唔會好多﹐因為大陸既郵費真係平到唔信。

隻機係平﹐但大家要有心理準備既係批機講明係次貨﹐雖然我見過個隻係OK﹐未必隻隻係咁﹐如果好似隻神州史汀咁就真係暈係度。

Hi Y C Lui,
我都有興趣,唔知可唔可以joint你一齊訂?


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PostPosted: 15 Nov 2004 12:37 am 

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Y C Lui wrote:
WingDragon wrote:
I want to buy it, should I order it on the website? Many mnay thanks!


你可以...........


Hi Y.C.

我亦有興趣,可否一際訂?

Billy.


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PostPosted: 15 Nov 2004 09:45 pm 
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我可以安排一齊買﹐但如果批機真係有也問題﹐大家要有心理準備承擔損失。剛同個廠家聯絡過﹐原來佢已經賣左 15 隻去台灣﹐尋日又寄左兩隻黎香港 (你地真係快手﹗)﹐依家只剩 8 隻。我地大約會買 5 隻﹐批機既郵費大約會係 200 蚊。

阿蘇﹐你如果真係對隻神州史汀有興趣既話﹐可以一齊買埋﹐不過隻機擺左係佢個倉 10 年﹐以經非常殘﹐下面係隻機D相﹐佢開價 650 蚊:

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CM Cheng wrote:
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你係話隻機咁殘佢仲夠膽開價 650 蚊定還是 10 年前大陸已經掌握到 hollow mold 機製作技術 ?


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PostPosted: 15 Nov 2004 10:04 pm 
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嘩!隻神州史汀嘅機齡仲老個我喎,存倉十年我驚砌好咗一放上天就成架解體,唔掂,都喺要隻 2M Sport好過囉,貨到 Call 我啦,Thx。


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PostPosted: 15 Nov 2004 10:06 pm 
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Y C Lui wrote:
CM Cheng wrote:
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你係話隻機咁殘佢仲夠膽開價 650 蚊定還是 10 年前大陸已經掌握到 hollow mold 機製作技術 ?


What I mean is: We finally found an environmental friendly moulded plane. This one is biodegradable !


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唔怪得叫做"屎"丁啦,原來 biodegradable!

我惗造環保機呢門生意有得惗,子明有冇興趣攪番隻 bodegradable 嘅 Bee呀!


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hey YC,
count me one for the 2M moldies, please.


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Hi Y.C.,

唔該預我一隻2m sport。

Billy.


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Hi Y C,

I want a "2m sport機" too.

Many thanks!

wai


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PostPosted: 22 Nov 2004 10:01 pm 

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My order of 2 sport gliders has arrived with no surprise. The red one has better quality as there are no major demages, even the aileron and elevator linkages is smooth and no missing parts. The white one has minor cracks at the edges and tips, the elevator is no so smooth and a nuts for the horn installation is missed. The wing is hollow molded and I believe there is some carbon fibre cloth look alike materials inside the wing and the elevator. A 6mm and a 2 mm stainless look alike rod is included for wing joining purpose. The fuselage has got no reinforcement material with it.

There are no push rod whatsoever, no screw was supplied for elevator to fuselage joining. I need to buy some at the local hardware shop. The glider was designed for 3 servos installation without rudder.

For a point system of 100 to be perfect, I would say this plane score for 70 to 75 marks as a whole. But for the price of $650, still a bargain!


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My order of 2 sport gliders has arrived with no surprise. The red one has better quality as there are no major demages, even the aileron and elevator linkages is smooth and no missing parts. The white one has minor cracks at the edges and tips, the elevator is no so smooth and a nuts for the horn installation is missed. The wing is hollow molded and I believe there is some carbon fibre cloth look alike materials inside the wing and the elevator. A 6mm and a 2 mm stainless look alike rod is included for wing joining purpose. The fuselage has got no reinforcement material with it.

There are no push rod whatsoever, no screw was supplied for elevator to fuselage joining. I need to buy some at the local hardware shop. The glider was designed for 3 servos installation without rudder.

For a point system of 100 to be perfect, I would say this plane score for 70 to 75 marks as a whole. But for the price of $650, still a bargain!


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According to the site, 6 Gliders was on it's way to HK wor.


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PostPosted: 03 Dec 2004 11:13 pm 
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係呀﹗重有隻神州史汀添﹐大約3日後到貨﹐已訂機既朋友請與我聯絡。 email: yclui@netvigator.com


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批機星期一已經到左香港﹐但速運公司唔記得 call 我﹐追左一輪﹐星期五先至去佢地紅堪個倉提貨﹐本來打算今日派機﹐但又臨時有事﹐所以要遲D

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隻機個模都做得幾好﹐起碼大部份面都係立立令﹐但呢批機係次貨﹐大家要準備執
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D料似乎係跟足外國標準。大陸無 balsa 樹﹐絕大部份國產機都係用桐木﹐但呢隻就用 balsa。鋪翼既纖維布好似係 1.4 oz
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有D位用左炭布﹐但好似無也作用
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呢條炭 spar cap 係用得最正路
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機身兩邊有 Kevlar 補強﹐但有D用 5.5 oz, 有D用 1.7 oz, 睇黎都係好求奇
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wing joiner 同 alignment pin 係用不銹鋼做﹐唔駛落 ballast 啦﹗
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呢隻神州史汀亦係?#26368;後史汀?#12290;佢既同鄉早排移民黎香港﹐受盡折磨﹐依家訓左係深切治療部﹐得番半條機命﹐醫唔醫得返都成問題﹐希望呢隻史汀既主人對佢好D啦﹗

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Dear YC,

I had experienced some difficulties during the building stage. Hope you could give me some advise.

The aileron is not moving smoothly especially hard to go down. I had trimed the outer part and not it can go downward up to 1.5cm. However, two edges is touching each other at this point. Not sliding into the gap.

He didn't send me the 2 screw for the elevator

As there is no aileron & elevator horn comes with the kit, what is your suggestion on the horn? and the original hole seems to be too closed to the aileron edge. If I am going to drill another one. What should be the correct distance from the edge?

What is your suggestion on the elevator push rod?

I have some ideas but want to get more opinion, thanks in advance.


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PostPosted: 12 Dec 2004 06:49 pm 
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個 aileron hinge 位頂著令條 aileron 郁唔到呢個問題我地D機都有時有﹐我收到呢批機都有兩隻翼有咁既問題﹕

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解決辦法好間單﹐就係噤低 aileron 前緣既纖維片﹐等條 aileron 可以攝入條罅度﹕

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過程要令D玻璃纖維變形﹐方法就係加熱。Epoxy 同好多塑膠一樣 ( ABS﹐亞卡力等 )過左某個溫度 (Glass Transition Temperature) 就會變軟﹐凍左又會變番硬。我地模型用既 epoxy 大部份係低溫品種﹐加熱到達約攝氏100 度就會變軟。落熨斗個陣要非常小心﹐除 aileron 前緣外﹐千祈唔好俾個熨斗掂到其他位

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熨完之後條 aileron 就可以行番正常角度架啦﹕

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aileron control horn 可以用 ball link. 呢D係櫃桶底搵到既 IM ball link:

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個 control horn 裝既位離開條 hinge 罅有幾遠唔係問題﹐最重要係夾推杆個窿要係正條 hinge 線上面﹐否則 aileron 行起黎就會大細邊

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隻機個身大把位。Elevator 推杆最好用 8mm balsa 棍, 唔會好似蛇仔推杆咁彈彈下﹕

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