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PostPosted: 11 Jun 2008 10:19 pm 
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As I said, my suggestion is for a system with two possible configurations:

Config A: Race 4 planes simultaneously and allow the pilots standing in the middle of the track rather than in Base B edge of the track. This is for the assumption that we have sufficient man power to man the bases (4 for base A and 4 for base B).

Config B: Pilots stand at Base B edge to race with 4 beepers positioned in Base A. This is a man-power saving mode, but to my opinion is less interesting more dangerous too!

Any other suggestion?


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PostPosted: 11 Jun 2008 10:23 pm 
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:roll: :roll:

More dangerous ?
Might be.

But, if think about DSing, the most safest place is the position that behind the pilot.

Anyway, I am open to all suggestion.

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Because of the sufficient man power and experience, we could arrange maximum 3 planes for safety.


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PostPosted: 12 Jun 2008 11:45 am 
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I think we should design a system with a high level of flexibility. If the system can accommodate a maximum of 4 pilots, it can also accommodate 3 pilots, but not vice versa.

C.M., do you have any idea to build a system like that? I think HKRCSS has the financial resource for this project.
If we have a MoM scoring system in place, we can hold more MoM races and this would be good fun and I believe we can attract more r/c pilots to join the club activities.


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No problem, if you are willing to wait :)


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PostPosted: 12 Jun 2008 10:39 pm 
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Hi CM,

Do we need to wait for another 2 years?

:twisted:

I suggest to hold a match with a very simple set up as soon as practiable. Any comment?


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I think it has to be an automatic system if audio cue is used for signalling the turn.

C.M., if you are talking about years to build the system, then we might instead build a simple system with lights first in order to restart the MoM activities as soon as possible.


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Stanley wrote:
I think it has to be an automatic system if audio cue is used for signalling the turn.

C.M., if you are talking about years to build the system, then we might instead build a simple system with lights first in order to restart the MoM activities as soon as possible.


Need to get more flying and practice before TR08. The new F3F timer is also on the way. So can't spare time for MOM equipment.

Ah-Pong has an idea of using existing RC equipment to build a simple system. I think it works.


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由現在到比賽時間只有兩個多月,所以比賽設備
都是以簡單為主,希望盡早製作成功測試。

我見意暫時用強 LED 燈做Base A 和 Base B的訊號。每邊一座燈箱,每個燈箱有紅、綠、籃和白四
棧強 LED 燈,每棧燈有一個按掣,當base beeper按掣後,燈會著兩秒時間,以示過base,如果
掣無按,燈會唔著,表示cut彎,賽員需要走多一圈才能完成。
燈箱和CD並不需要連線,CD只需要看燈號先後次序決定到達終點的名次,我覺得CD應該應付得來。我基本上已經設計好了線路,呢兩日會到鴨寮街買燈板和零件,有空就會砌個燈箱來試試,希望兩三個星期後
砌起,比各位飛友熟習儀器和練習Man on Man飛行。 :lol: :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: 18 Jun 2008 10:41 am 
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(1) When the pilots are at one of the turning points, they are always looking at the course as well as their models.

(2) If they are standing between the bases, they cannot always see the other's models.

I think (2) is more exciting for the spectators :twisted:

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Stanley wrote:
由現在到比賽時間只有兩個多月,所以比賽設備
都是以簡單為主,希望盡早製作成功測試。

我見意暫時用強 LED 燈做Base A 和 Base B的訊號。每邊一座燈箱,每個燈箱有紅、綠、籃和白四
棧強 LED 燈,每棧燈有一個按掣,當base beeper按掣後,燈會著兩秒時間,以示過base,
如果
掣無按,燈會唔著,表示cut彎,賽員需要走多一圈才能完成。
燈箱和CD並不需要連線,CD只需要看燈號先後次序決定到達終點的名次,我覺得CD應該應付得來。我基本上已經設計好了線路,呢兩日會到鴨寮街買燈板和零件,有空就會砌個燈箱來試試,希望兩三個星期後
砌起,比各位飛友熟習儀器和練習Man on Man飛行。
:lol: :lol: :lol:



There may be some pilots need to "需要走多一圈才能完成", and at the same time some other pilots may lag over an entire lap. Then it is not a simple task of "CD只需要看燈號先後次序決定到達終點的名次".

That's why I suggest each line judge counts the lap of his pilot.


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如果有自動計分儀器就唔需要咁麻繁。

無自動計分器的話,個CD就要做多好多功夫,
如果個line judge數圈數,他要將圈數用walkie傳回給CD,傳回CD後又要通知對應的pilot話佢要走多一圈,一個機手cut灣還免強可以應付,但當兩三個一齊cut灣時跟本無可能應付! :x

我建意都係CD睇飛機到終點的先後次序,A點的line judges也要keep track各飛機所走過的圈數和到達終點次序,然後CD會與其中一個line judge用walkie溝通,confirm決定名次。機手就要自覺cut灣無需CD提點,如果佢cut灣唔自覺,走少一圈而無完成賽事,就當DNF。


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剛剛去買了些LED,今晚返去試下砌盞燈。我唸用訊號燈的方法只是暫時性質,日後一定要造個全自動計分系統,所以為了減省時間和製作經費(那些LED燈都幾貴),我建意都是造一個燈箱算啦,比賽時機手會企埋一邊在base B,又可減省人手。如果係清水灣比賽,燈箱可放在英雄灣附近,機手就企係飛場右邊近盡頭飛,內檔飛離,外檔飛近,crossover點在近機手不遠即飛場中位左右。

阿邦,可唔可以幫手造個黑色的燈箱,裝住四盞燈?個箱要有固定板,可固定在三腳架上。長方形好似交通燈咁,我唸用黑色雅通板加木板製作都夠堅固,攜帶亦都方便! :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: 18 Jun 2008 08:53 pm 
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嘩!越搞越大陣像。連交通燈都出動。但制造之前一定要考慮清楚,賽後交通燈是否交回給運輸處存放。 :wink:


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PostPosted: 19 Jun 2008 02:59 pm 
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Stanley wrote:
剛剛去買了些LED,今晚返去試下砌盞燈。 :lol: :lol:


點解要用燈呀 :!:

不如用大聲公叫就得啦

1號......3號......2號.............4號 CUT ! !


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如果要用大聲公,咪要四隻咁多,仲要每隻既聲都唔同,去邊度搵呀 :x

不過如果D太太肯出黎幫手,麥太、蘇太、邦太、仲有邊個阿太夠大聲既話…

或者都有得唸既! :lol: :lol: :lol:


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仲有 Stanley 太 !!

Therefore, we need not to build the equipment.

:roll: :roll:


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Ah Pong wrote:
仲有 Stanley 太 !!

Therefore, we need not to build the equipment.


Stanley 佢自己講左啦 :lol: :twisted:


Stanley wrote:
如果要用大聲公,咪要四隻咁多,仲要每隻既聲都唔同,去邊度搵呀 :x

不過如果D太太肯出黎幫手,麥太、蘇太、邦太、仲有邊個阿太夠大聲既話…

或者都有得唸既! :lol: :lol: :lol:


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唔駛出動D阿太!我已經造左D訊號燈,今日在飛鵝山太霧中試過都幾清識!依傢阿邦搞緊個黑色燈箱,希望稍後可以實地搞番次試驗MoM賽,睇


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PostPosted: 08 Jul 2008 10:50 pm 
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邦邦!

你造個燈箱有冇也進展呀?如果早D造起,可以在8月前搞番個非正適MoM賽,睇下有幾多飛友有興趣參賽和順便試下個燈箱和workout


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Dear all,

The equipment is almost done.

As you can see on the back, there has 4 RCA sockets for hand-held switches.

I also reserve space inside the box for internal Li-po battery. On the side, a socket for charging the internal Li-po. In case the internal battery is run out, a spare socket for external battery would act as backup.

Power switch is not neccesary! When using internal, switch to external is off, and vise verse.

:lol: :lol:


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Ah Kin,

The space is reserve for the Li-ion that you gave me sometime ago. Would you please bring nine more to me on coming Sunday?

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