RC Slope Soaring in Hong Kong

The first committee meeting of the HKRCSS

Date : April 2, 2011, Saturday
Time : 6:00 PM
Venue : Conference room, Sheung Tak Community Hall, Sheung Mei House, Sheung Tak Estate, Tseung Kwan O

Agenda
1, Confirmation of Last AGM Minute
2, Matters arose from the last meeting
3, Report on matters related to club management
4, Activity report
5, Planned activities
6, AOB
6.1, Revision of the arrangement in participating in international F3F contests. - CM Cheng
6.2, Discussion on TR2011 participation right. - CM Cheng

Do you have any other topics needed to bring to the meeting, please contact
Lee Man (Chairman), Ho Kwok Wai (Vice Chairman), Clement Tsang (Treasurer) or CM Cheng (Secretary)


香港遙控滑翔飛行協會 第一次會議

日期 : 2011年4月2日, 星期六
時間 : 晚上6時正
地點 : 將軍澳 尚德邨尚美樓 尚德社區會堂 會議室

議程
1, 確認上次會議記錄
2, 上次會議後需跟進的事項
3, 協會管理事項報告
4, 活動報告
5, 計劃活動
6, 其他事項
6.1, 有關F3F國際賽出賽權之修訂 - CM Cheng
6.2, 有關TR2011出賽權之討論 - CM Cheng

如有其他項目需提出討論，請聯絡
李文(會長)、AC(副會長)、細文(財政)或CM(秘書)

為免流會請各委員準時出席

A proposition of the revision of Section 2.2, Hong Kong F3F League Rules and Contest Arrangements (Provisional, revised 2010)


Original:

2.2 Participation in international F3F contests

The league winners for the current year will automatically qualify for representing Hong Kong to compete next year in Viking Race, Typhoon Race, or any future world FAI F3F event. However, the qualification is only valid for joining one international contest. If more than one international contest are available, the pilots next on the line will have the priority to choose to go. In case if a qualified pilot relinquishes his right, the pilot next on the line will be qualified. The qualified pilots must confirm whether they will join the international contest two months in advance so that pilots next on the line can prepare to take up their positions. All qualified pilots must be local pilots who permanently live in Hong Kong.


Revision:

2.2 Participation in international F3F contests

League results will be used to qualify pilots who can represent Hong Kong for International F3F contests. International F3F contests refer to those that have limitation on the number of participants of each country. This includes Typhoon race and the FAI F3F world championship. For each international F3F contest, the 6 successfully held F3F league races before the contest registration deadline (*1) will be used for the qualification. For each pilot, the best 5 races out of the 6 will be used as the personal result. Pilots have the highest score will be qualified for the international contest. In case if a qualified pilot relinquishes his right, the pilot next on the line will be qualified.

The qualification of each international F3F competition is independent to each other. This means a pilot qualified for one international contest will not automatically disqualify him from another international contest. The exception is that if the qualification races of the contests have more than half are overlapped, each qualified pilots can only take part in one of international contest.

All qualified pilots must be local pilots who holds a Hong Kong ID card.

(*1) Actual cut off day will usually be 1 or 2 months before the contest deadline to account for the necessary working time. This will be announced for each international contest as soon as possible.

CM,

A minor point. How to determine a pilot is permanently living in Hong Kong ?

For example, Ah Sang from Taiwan, he was born in HK and has a HK ID card. If he flies over to join our match each month, would he be regarded as qualified ?

On the other hand, Marcus comes to HK from euro for work with a two years contract, if he join us every month and win, would he be qualified ?

***

CM,

I understood that you said '3 stars'.

You are not totally understood the meaning of '3 stars'.

A person born in HK would automatically have the right of abode and become a permanent resident. However, a person not born in HK but came to HK (say, from the Mainland), and have lived for 7 years, he would only have 2 stars in his ID card. If he mainly lives in HK (travelling should not count), I see no point to deprive him to represent HK in F3F race.

Think twice.....

I know you are so familiar to those legal stuff. Why not join the committe meeting and help us to make all the things smooth? We mortals are not that brilliant.

btw, the statament you are concerning is from the original revision. I suppose we all know what it means, though it is not that legally precise. Can you help us to modify it?

Hey CM,

I am quite busy recently for the prepartion of my examination. I am unable to join the meeting. That's why I put up the question here. I have to make it clear that I am not trying to challenge your proposal. My objective was to make the thing clearer. BTW, am I still a committee member ?

I knew that the statement was not written by you (might be by a dirty old man).

In order to make the thing simple and aviod any discrimination, I suggest that the qualified pilot to be a person who could win the majority of our league races, and has a HK ID card (no matter how many stars). We should disregard other issue such as his race, religion, gender etc. Furthermore, the period he stays in HK is immaterial, provided that he could attend most of the league matches and win.

I am open to any suggestion, feel free to discuss here.

regards.

Thanks, that sounds good. I have modified the proposal

Ha, CM,

Your amendment was swift !!

今個星期六晚開會如果人數不足法定人數，會流會開唔成啊，依家D飛友靜係顧住飛和比賽，幫手做會務的人越黎越少，過去幾次開會人數都嚴重不足，要臨時call友，長此以往個會會散架！唔該各位有心人仕入會幫幫手，搞番旺佢！清水灣新人也越黎越少，除了F3F外其他活動無人問津，委員想搞都有心無力，點算，唉！

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