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可以改10月31日,補賽!

Agree ! 10月31日,補賽

如果冇人出post反對，可以改10月31日,補賽!

請問CD(Stanley)在無人反對下能否改期
我哋都係想賽得一場得一場啫

唔知點決定呀！過去好多人反對改期，依傢加場仲要改期就更加唔知其他飛友點唸！

不如等到星期五晚天氣情況再作決定啦！
如果有飛友反對，請在星期五晚前提出！

Stanley你好似好唔滿意 ，不過最好電話問有無人反對改期，因為唔係個個日日上網。

如果31日搞非正式比賽就唔駛理有冇人反對

這是巳有賽例的事項:
http://hkrcss.org/F3FGroup/HKF3F_league_rules.html
1.2 Cancellation of races

In case of poor weather forecast, such as rain, fog, or no wind (below scale 3), the race should be cancelled. There will be no make-up race for the cancelled race. The decision to cancel the race must be made and announced by the designated CD of the day. As weather permitted, cancellation should be announced as earlier as possible, say one day in advance. However, CD would have the sole discretion to announce it on site or not.

Stanley,

做勿每次天氣唔好、都問改期嘅問題？
並唔係所有飛友都好像我地咁，每個星期六、日,都可以去放機
有啲機友向公司或家人申請左比賽日放假、唔係咁容易改！但係又唔好意思提出反對！
我地如果改期、佢地就少在一場比賽嘅成績！
所以,定左唔可以因天氣而改期嘅賽例，係大家開會同意了的

新機友可能唔清楚、但開會決定有關賽例時,你係在場嘅！
請不要按自已的喜好、中途改例

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冬位機友,
年度月賽定係每月嘅第2個星期日、係另大家可以提早為比賽安排時間
如果比賽日與其它大日子撞期、例如母親節(要培亞媽)、VR大賽(要出國)、等等,可以"提早更改比賽日程表".
已定的比賽日程,因天氣導致不能比賽,不可改期.

如月賽取消、飛informal 比賽啦、一樣咁開心

Fully agree

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阿麥，我無話過改期，亦都唔係我提出，唔好指住我鬧！我無權改期

其實今次加場，亦都唔跟定下的規則做，本來是講明話用TR2010的成積計，提出24號加場時我無贊成，只是唔出聲，無飛友反對可能只是阿麥所說唔好意思出聲！

既然要執正做，點解唔用番TR2010成積計，其他加場24號又好，31號又好都當非正式賽！

我知咁樣提出又會比人鬧啦！

Stanley, please see this post: http://www.rcsail.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 8d493317b7

"原計劃以Typhoon race作為聯賽十月份的成績，但考慮到並非所有人都會參加Typhoon race，現建議在十月三日加添一場比賽作為十月份成績，請問大家有沒有意見呢？請於八月三十一日前提出意見。"


"有關十月份比賽安排，其實有幾個選擇

1, 十月三日一場正式比賽，取代以TR為十月份聯賽成績。

2, 十月廿四日一場正式比賽，取代以TR為十月份聯賽成績。

3, 按原定以TR為十月份成績，但全年總成績以平均分計，避免沒有參加TR的朋友總成績比有參加的少一個月。"


Note that we even considered NOT adding OCT match and use the TR as the OCT result. We have more than 1 month to collect suggestion, and it was done 2 months before the match. I think decision is good enough to represent all of the interest of the F3F pilots.

The bottom line is, as score is counted the league must be fair to everyone. The original proposed using TR as OCT result is NOT fair to those who cannot join TR. Not everyone can join a three days event, and we have limited positions for HK pilots. Can you still remember???

Using TR result as OCT result is not fair. So please don't 混淆視聽

I never agree or against this! I didn't say anything when you guys discussed this issue, don't pointing the finger at me.

I just said, according to the schedule and rules defined in the beginning of this year, only TR2010 is considered to be used as Oct result. Why did't you guys think about this before laying down the schedule table? We did the same thing in 2007 HK Open, why you guys didn't raise the issue when we worked out the race table a year ago! Anything change in between is considering not rule-abiding so to say!

Anyway, it's history! So I don't want to re-trace it back, I just said it out for raising the concern next time we work on the schedule table.

I think the weather is improving, it seems that typhoon Megi is moving away a bit and land earlier, I guess this Sunday would probably ok. So be happy! See you on 24 and remember to join the dinner on 24 night, cheers!

明白哂

C.M.,

I have said before to use a fair scoring system by dividing total score with different dividents based on the number of races that pilot participated. I think this scoring is fair.

But you guys pushed for an additional race on 24 Oct instead, who knows there might be pilots who can not participate but 唔好意思說出!!!

Same principle, 加場就得，改期就唔得，this is double standard!

History or No History ?

Anyway, 鮎魚 seems to be going away.
Lets wish for better condition on this Sunday

I am busy in the office so I don't want to argue with you. I think I've already made my points clear and I have nothing to add. If you think it is double standard, fine, let it be double standard. My fault. OK?

Argument used to be SMP's internal affair. I don't want to break this tradition

No ! No ! No!

其實local rule 有無可能再開個F3F大會研究吓有無改善空間?(可在比賽前/後的空檔商討 ...)

譬如正式聯賽設於每月第二個星期日,現在賽例如當日取消就不設補賽(CM和麥師父已解釋原因...)
但如果取消後設定補賽在每月第四個星期日會否可行?(相隔兩星期是否有足夠時間讓各機手安排時間?)
結論當然要所有機手一致通過啦

只是想到點意見來探討一下

當然可以再商討啦！ 最好下次 HKRCSS 季度會議時、多啲人出席、商討有關事項.

注意:
F3F 並非個會嘅為一活動.
現在已有故定時間的、是每月第1個Sunday的新人訓練，及每月第2個Sunday的 F3F月賽
其它日子有 EPP combat, EPP 手接, EPP Landing, EPP MOM, 60" F3F, 60" MOM, Scale機, 電機留空, DLG,彈射, DS等
雖然其中有些活動，近期已少有進行，要每月固定預留2天作F3F,可能也不容易呢！

大家一齊動動腦啦！

Thanks 麥師父!

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