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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:30 pm 

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見blue/pink foam cut出黎好靚, 想試下hotwire cut. 請問邊度有blue/pink foam 賣呀? thanks.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:02 am 
:o 二世文提供:旺角道廣東道恒隆車場地下有間賣建材行、有天台隔熱板數拾元一件係green foam 密度低可能輕、未巧証、zman已入了數件、但還未開工做翼、詳情可問佢 :roll:


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:03 am 
:o 二世文提供:旺角道廣東道恒隆車場地下有間賣建材行、有天台隔熱板數拾元一件係green foam 密度低可能輕、未巧証、zman已入了數件、但還未開工做翼、詳情可問佢 :roll:


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:32 am 

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原來仲有多隻green foam架. 小克兄講果度係咪即係豪華戲院隔黎? Thanks!


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:23 pm 
我上次去呢頭只係見過藍 foam, 幾十蚊買左塊。但見唔到紅 foam 同綠 foam﹐雖然呢幾隻 foam 都係同樣材料﹐只係牌子唔同﹐但有多D選擇都好。可否相告確實地址同舖名 ?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 4:27 pm 
:o 又係zman提供:pink foam 在灣仔聖備買、4x8尺約120元、聖備資料可在黃頁軟木發泡找、但pink foam比bluegreen foam重,約為10-25巴仙、而在旺角買的foam係用作天台地台隔熱用,所以foam邊起級、方便互疊再落防水及英泥、blue foam比較快變粉碎,可能硬,green foam耐用,可能un、當然唔同廠出品又有分別、未知有冇師兄提供詳細學名及分別、另上次買green foam的舖名唔記得、地址約在廣東道豪戲院向前行、到小露天車場對面、恒通大地下碧文天花材料隔離鋪、係賣防水防火化工料、green foam會鋪內架頂、good luck! :roll:


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 11:06 pm 
小克 wrote:
...當然唔同廠出品又有分別、未知有冇師兄提供詳細學名及分別...


呢 D 發泡膠材料既化學成份同書局賣既白色發泡膠一樣﹐叫 Expanded PolyStyrene﹐簡稱 EPS。呢D發泡膠有幾隻色﹕綠﹐紅﹐藍﹐灰﹐黃。唔同顏色只係代表唔同生產商﹐每隻顏色都有唔同硬度同重量供選擇。所以無話邊隻色特別重或硬。

綠 foam 係 BASF 化工生產﹕
http://www.basf.de/basf/html/plastics/englisch/pages/schaum/styrodur.htm

藍 foam 係 DOW 化工生產﹕
http://www.dow.com/styrofoam/index.htm

紅 foam 係 Owen Corning 化工生產﹕
http://owenscorning.com/around/insulation/products/foamular.asp


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 11:27 pm 

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 4:08 pm 

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唔該晒咁多位大佬, pink foam終於搵到喇! 而家緊開工做隻foam core既 fiberglass wings!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 4:31 pm 
Henry Chan wrote:
唔該晒咁多位大佬, pink foam終於搵到喇! 而家緊開工做隻foam core既 fiberglass wings!



勁抽﹗老兄應該係全港頭幾個人做呢種結構既 DIY 機。記住貼多D相上黎俾大家睇。我試過 bag 塊 balsa 做實驗, 想D纖維布係後緣出面黐埋﹐但咁簡單既野都失敗﹐所以我仲未敢 bag foam 翼。


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 5:38 pm 

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我諗住用pink foam做core, 加carbon rods做support, 一塊fiberglass cloth+epoxy, 再加多層Microballon+epoxy做finishing. 不過都有好多小問題要解決. e.g. 上epoxy去fiber cloth時成日都會黐唔實塊pink foam, D鬼老用heater去solve呢個問題, 但無啦啦去邊度搵咁大個heater呀!

不過係try and error既過程會學到好多野, 失敗得返黎既經驗會比成功多. 有機會大家一齊研究下啦!

Vacumm bag我都未識整, 同埋D架餐(Mylar, pump, heater, ...)都唔知去邊搵. 遲D真係要請教下你!


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 11:12 pm 
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Hi Henry
我唔知到heater用呢做怎麼的?可唔可以話我聽.我用袋袋mode咗隻飛翼機都OK以在星期一試飛但有空難事件~嗚~~嗚~~~嗚.下次在飛鵝山見到面一齊研究'研究'


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 2:06 pm 
Henry 講既 heater 會唔會係指一般鬼佬叫既 hot box﹐ thermal box 或 curing box ﹖ 對室溫硬化既 epoxy 黎講﹐ 佢既作用係加快硬化時間﹐epoxy 一般每加熱 10 度﹐硬化時間就減半。我都用紙盒粗粗地整左個。幾好用。如果係做真空袋﹐加熱D epoxy 仲可以令D膠稀D, 加強流動性﹐可以令多餘既膠容易D?#24517;?#36208;﹐有助減輕製成品重量。

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2004 12:28 am 
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我明白,唔該晒. :D


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 11:23 pm 
Fiberglass coated on the wings, but not very good! You can see that the cloth can't stick onto the foam firmly.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 11:28 pm 
Actually this is not a good method compare with bagging, but as an experiment it's worth to try I think. Eventually, I'll make a bagged version.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 12:22 am 
DIY 既滿足感係來自發現自己都可以做到﹐有時仲係用自己唸出黎既方法﹐唔駛跟人地﹐好﹗努力﹗加油﹗支持﹗


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