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Author:  Y C Lui [ Sun Apr 29, 2007 9:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Aris CG and settings

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Author:  Stanley [ Sun Apr 29, 2007 9:50 pm ]
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話明

Author:  Y C Lui [ Sun Apr 29, 2007 9:55 pm ]
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唔。。。可以排除103mm CG 位呢個 setting 了。 一定係前少少至真。唔知 snap flap 又要儘量避免用邊個 setting 咁呢 ﹖

Author:  Stanley [ Sun Apr 29, 2007 10:20 pm ]
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Y C Lui wrote:
唔知 snap flap 又要儘量避免用邊個 setting 咁呢 ﹖


Snap flao 有咁大 set 到佢有咁大,總之轉彎抽到佢唔反肚就得架啦!

Author:  Angus [ Sun Apr 29, 2007 10:38 pm ]
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YC,

Stanley D setting 好大,可能我的setting較適合你-

CG: 104mm

Normal
Aileron : +13/-10mm
Elevator: +7/-7mm
Rudder: +7/-7mm
Aileron-to-flap: Max Aileron to 5mm Flap
Snap flap: Flap -7.5mm, Alieron -2.5mm

Thermal
Aileron: -3mm
Flap: -8mm

Speed
Aileron: +1mm
Flap: +1.5mm

Butterfly
Aileron : +10mm
Elevator: -4mm
Flap: -35mm

+=向上
-=向下

Author:  CM Cheng [ Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:05 am ]
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Can anyone help me .. . .

Aris questions:

1, For 35MHz, can I put the antenna inside the fuselage?

2, What is the size of the ballast?

Author:  K.Y.Mak [ Tue Jul 31, 2007 4:47 pm ]
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I'm using 35Mhz.
My aris have an extension wire which drop back from the tail for about 10 inches.
Works OK so far.

Author:  K.Y.Mak [ Tue Jul 31, 2007 4:54 pm ]
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Stanley wrote:
Y C Lui wrote:
唔知 snap flap 又要儘量避免用邊個 setting 咁呢 ﹖


Snap flao 有咁大 set 到佢有咁大,總之轉彎抽到佢唔反肚就得架啦!


呢樣就真係各拖各法!
有D慢風情況下,我直頭關左個 snap flap 唔用,飛得重快!

Author:  Angus [ Tue Jul 31, 2007 8:04 pm ]
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The tail part of Aris fuselage is made by GRP instead of carhon. I've tried a standard 35MHz PCM receiver without any extended antenna and the result is fine.

For the ballast, it is around 24.5mm diameter.

Author:  CM Cheng [ Thu Aug 02, 2007 2:12 pm ]
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Tried the Sanwa SDX762 on the V-tail. The response is very fast and they are very accurate.

As advised by Ah Wing, I cycled all the SDX762 300 cycles before installing on the model.

So far, so good!

And for the reliability, well, time will tell. But my planes usually cannot last longer than the servos . . . :P

Author:  Ah Pong [ Thu Aug 02, 2007 10:05 pm ]
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CM wrote:

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for the reliability, well, time will tell. But my planes usually cannot last longer than the servos . . .


You are dam right!!
:twisted: :evil: :twisted: :evil:

Author:  Angus [ Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:15 pm ]
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CM Cheng wrote:
for the reliability, well, time will tell. But my planes usually cannot last longer than the servos . . . :P


Especially, the neck breaks first :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

Author:  CM Cheng [ Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:44 pm ]
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Angus wrote:
CM Cheng wrote:
for the reliability, well, time will tell. But my planes usually cannot last longer than the servos . . . :P


Especially, the neck breaks first :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:


Not on my plane, for I have openned a BIG hole before the neck !!


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Author:  Wing [ Fri Aug 03, 2007 1:37 am ]
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Ah ya C M ...informed you too late to reinforce Aris neck along the build :!: Angus is right that the neck of Aris is a bit weak :!:

Also please consider test out the retention capability of those Sanyo NiMH batteries installed in your Aris :!: I have no experience on 2700 mA type (as shown) but I've already gave up all same type of Sanyo NiMH 2500 mA batteries due to their poor retention capability : Even not use - the battery power will disappear very quickly :!:

See if you want catching up with Ah Yeung as he performed good test among different types of AA size NiMH batteries (4 x 1.2V for 4.8V) :idea:

Good luck :!:

Author:  Yeung [ Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:01 pm ]
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Hi CM,
I don't have Aris but I wonder if it helps if you bridge the two servos with a graphite plate and then rest it somewhere on the "I-beam" structure.
For the RX battery, the type you are showing has very short self storage life. It is already confirmed by many users. The half-life is just 2 days. You will be surprised where has all the energy has gone after one week. On the other hand, this type of battery can sustain high current charge/discharge. So it is good for freshly charge and immediate use.
Some pilots stick to Nicad for its low internal resistance. With the evolution of technology, the Nimh has no higher resistance than the Nicad anymore while carrying good capacity.
I have a sophisticated battery analyser for bench testing. I will recommend the Sanyo's eneloop. Its self life for a fully charged pack is one year! (GP has similar product but I have no idea on its performance).

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