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| Author: | runsthroughit [ Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | 2007-2008 F3F Korea League |
2007-2008 F3F Korea League started last Sunday in a rainy weather. It`s going to be held one game per a month, during 5 months from December 2007 to April 2008 because wind blows only this period. Many expensive composite planes had to be exposed to rain all day long. Finally we had to finished the first game with only 2 rounds due to the rain. Wind speed was 2-3m/s as average. I hope you enjoy some of pics from the game. In first place: Lee, Seung Kuk In second place: Jang, Ki Seong In third place: Lee, Jae Jin Best speed: Jang, Ki Seong reported by Young-Seok Shin, SouthKorea These pics were taken by Kim, Jin Kab http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=781343 |
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| Author: | Stanley [ Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:24 pm ] |
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Congratulation to both Lee and Dr. Lee! Really glad to see many Korean pilot friends too! Wish the Korea league runs smoothly and everyone of you be happy on the slope, cheers! It's a pity to know that the league is only for five months. It seems that summer time would be warmer and be more comfortable than the chilling cold of Korea mountain in winter. Is it true that the wind during summer is virtually zero, or because of the lacking of suitable slopes for opposite wind directions? |
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| Author: | runsthroughit [ Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:51 am ] |
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Some local slope clubs around the nation have their own flying site, but they`re not suitable for F3F contest, just for free flying. Mt.Hwang-geum is the best one in Korea. You`re right! In summer season, we used to go to Mt.Jang-bok is located in Jin-Hae city. You can remember you have flown there while 2007 Korea Open. |
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| Author: | Ah Pong [ Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:18 pm ] |
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Stanley: They have crystal trophies in each league !! Comparing to us, we are really poor, as we don't even have a piece of paper in last few matches !! (Especially when I won) 
http://static.rcgroups.com/forums/attachments/1/7/9/9/5/7/a1601938-139-s7300126_macalwind.jpg |
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| Author: | Angus [ Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:52 pm ] |
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Do we have any funding from the Club? |
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| Author: | Ah Pong [ Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:27 pm ] |
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Quote: Do we have any funding from the Club?
From time to time, I overheard that the club spent a lot of resourse on F3F. But it is not the truth. When comparing with other activities, such as EPP spot landing, combat and duration flight, we spent very little. Even the HK Open 207 was orginised on behalf of the club, our fellows have to contribute to the deficit !! Do we need to think again on this aspect ?? |
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| Author: | K.Y.Mak [ Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:33 pm ] |
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Ah Pong wrote: Stanley:
They have crystal trophies in each league !! Pong, Stanley had run out of space to put all the trophies he got from the pass already. If he keep on getting a new crystal trophies home every month, he might get into trouble with his wife 
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| Author: | Stanley [ Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:45 pm ] |
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Ah Pong wrote: Quote: Do we have any funding from the Club? From time to time, I overheard that the club spent a lot of resourse on F3F. But it is not the truth. When comparing with other activities, such as EPP spot landing, combat and duration flight, we spent very little. Even the HK Open 207 was orginised on behalf of the club, our fellows have to contribute to the deficit !! Do we need to think again on this aspect ?? That's is an unfair criticism! In Hong Kong F3F Open, we have secured HK$5,000 cash sponsorship for the event plus over 15 models and prizes. The resource we get is much more than all other events (combat, DLG,..) combined! When the club organizes event, it will base on a balanced budget, so we see all types of events the same. For example, last week slope combat, we made a set of trophies for $450, the contest fee derived is $460. If you want to have beautiful trophies for F3F, then pay a higher contest fee, will you agree on that? |
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| Author: | Stanley [ Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:20 pm ] |
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Let me give a rough calculation: The crystal trophies as such will cost at least HK$1,500 to make. If we have 15 pilots joining the F3F contest, each pilot needs to pay $100 contest fee, will you happy with that? Now we should have collected $20 for each race, and with probably 9 races and an average of 12 participants, we should be able to collect around $2,000 for a good set of trophies for the league result presentation during AGM. I think that will be more meaningful than paying a high contest fee for each race. |
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| Author: | Ah Pong [ Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:30 pm ] |
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Stanley wrote: Quote: That's is an unfair criticism! I am not criticizing anyone, but just want a frank discusion. Quote: In Hong Kong F3F Open, we have secured HK$5,000 cash sponsorship for the event plus over 15 models and prizes. The resource we get is much more than all other events (combat, DLG,..) combined! What I heard was not how much we secured, but how much we'd spent on F3F events. Quote: base on a balanced budget HK$ 450 Vs 460, it was not a balance budget. We have surplus this time. Where did the 10 dollar end up? Went to the club's acount. However, please bear in mind that we are not a profitable association. Hence, we could not ensure each event would have surplus. Sometimes it happens, but sometimes it won't. Therefore, if we alow surplus to be credited into the club's acount, we shall also allow the deficit to be settled by the club's acount. Quote: If you want to have beautiful trophies for F3F, then pay a higher contest fee, will you agree on that?
Don't manipulate my words. I was not saying that I could get the trophy. In fact, during the preparatory meeting, I foreseen there might have deficit, and asked whether we shall increase the contest fee as well as the charge of the banquet. It was just a sensible suggestion. But the decision was not the same. Lastly, I want to make it clear that I had not paid extra money for the deficit, but simply wish to bring up the issue for discusion. The money matter for the HK Open 207 should not further discuss openly here. Please don't reply, unless for the league related subject. bye 
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| Author: | K.Y.Mak [ Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:08 am ] |
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Oh No ! Don't bring this issue up on the forum again please. It was settled already 
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| Author: | kin [ Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:25 am ] |
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Stanley! 不如錦喇!每個月呢D比賽,如果D獎杯唔係太貴的話.看看能否由我或我公司SMARTMODEL比錢做,當然太貴就唔得呀!!因為小數真係"好長"計!!可否比我知大約幾錢??又可否在杯上有我公司LOGO呢!又可否在RC SAIL.COM 的板面上顯示我個公司綱址.人家可以指上去就入到條LINK 呢!!呢個好公平呢!大家覺得如何?? |
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| Author: | runsthroughit [ Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:14 am ] |
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Actually the trophies were made by the contribution from Mr.Han(Han,Seong Ho). He prepared them on his own. I think some of you guys know him well. He went together with his daughter & her friend last Hong Kong F3F Open 2007. He is very active and energetic. He did many things for Team Albatross. P.S: Stanley, I made and submitted new resteration form and waiting for the administrator`s approval. --------------------------------------------- Username: Young-Seok Shin Password: ******* Your account is currently inactive, the administrator of the board will need to activate it before you can log in. You will receive another email when this has occured. |
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| Author: | BigYeung [ Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:28 pm ] |
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kin wrote: Stanley! 不如錦喇!每個月呢D比賽,如果D獎杯唔係太貴的話.看看能否由我或我公司SMARTMODEL比錢做,當然太貴就唔得呀!!因為小數真係"好長"計!!可否比我知大約幾錢??又可否在杯上有我公司LOGO呢!又可否在RC SAIL.COM 的板面上顯示我個公司綱址.人家可以指上去就入到條LINK 呢!!呢個好公平呢!大家覺得如何??
Thanks Ah Kin  But it will be quite costly in long run. You may check with Mrs Chan or Jimmy So, it costs around HK$800 to HK$1200 for 3 small trophies as Wxxgo used for car racing. HK$20 as entry fee for each F3F participant will not cover the cost. A hundred dollar per time will be too costly for me as the trophy will be too far away for me to touch on! 
A laminated A5 size certificate printed from color printer be great for the winners at each competition. (Must be ready to present by the competition, no retrospective! Or the winners will feel being ignored! ) A set of trophies can prized to the overall winners of the league of that year on the expense of the entry fee collected for that year on that event, as well as sponsorship from contributors, such as Ah KIN  ...
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| Author: | hendry [ Fri Dec 07, 2007 6:34 pm ] |
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每月都有獎杯成本實在太貴又不太環保 有點建議，不知到可不可行？ 1. 月賽獎品照現時做法，勝出的得証書一張 2. 年度冠、亞、季軍，隊伍冠軍，速度獎等各得獎杯一只，各得獎人可在獎杯刻上名字及保留獎杯一年 而連續四年或共有六年度都得到同一獎杯的可長久保留獎杯 |
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| Author: | Ah Pong [ Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:27 pm ] |
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Big Yeung wrote: Quote: A laminated A5 size certificate printed from color printer be great for the winners at each competition. Totelly agree. Laminating is better than putting it into frame. Big Yeung wrote: Quote: (Must be ready to present by the competition, no retrospective! Or the winners will feel being ignored) That's was what I felt. Hendry wrote: Quote: 月賽獎品照現時做法，勝出的得証書一張
Our current practice is nothing awarded, not even a piece of paper!! (Because the lazy Stanley not willing to print them )
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| Author: | K.Y.Mak [ Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:51 pm ] |
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hendry wrote: 而連續四年或共有六年度都得到同一獎杯的可長久保留獎杯
咁又唔駛幾年先出一個獎杯！ 要於年度賽勝出已經係非常困難架啦 |
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| Author: | Stanley [ Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:07 pm ] |
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runsthroughit wrote: P.S: Stanley, I made and submitted new resteration form and waiting for the administrator`s approval.
--------------------------------------------- Username: Young-Seok Shin Password: ******* Your account is currently inactive, the administrator of the board will need to activate it before you can log in. You will receive another email when this has occured. The account was already activated. The reason for manual activation is to stop those junk registrations that can submit ridiculous content. Thanks. I am sorry also that our fellow pilots have hijacked your thread here. Dear Hong Kong pilots, can we discuss the unresolved, if any, issue regarding the funding of the trophies in a new thread please? |
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| Author: | Young-Seok Shin [ Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:14 am ] |
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Quote: I am sorry also that our fellow pilots have hijacked your thread here.
Stanley, I don`t care, but I`m sorry for I left something that would make trouble. Actually I don`t think we need trohpy or something for award. We love flying together. The reason of holding a F3F league is just for keeping our friendship. Flying together is better than doing it alone. Right? P.S: Finally, I can write here with my real name. Thanks Stanley. |
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| Author: | Young-Seok Shin [ Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | 2007-2008 KOREA F3F LEAGUE -2nd round |
Hi guys! Last Sunday the 2nd round was held at Mt.Hwang-geum in Korea. All 18 guys participated in the game at sub-zero temperatures because the mountain was covered with snow. Wind was the worst we`ve ever had so we could finished only two round and that`s all. P.S: I`m not sure if you can see the pics or not. I hope it work well. Once it work, I will post more pics. |
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| Author: | CM Cheng [ Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:57 pm ] |
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S N O W !!! 
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| Author: | Stanley [ Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:38 am ] |
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Hi Young-Seok, Really glad to see that the size of your team F3F flyers is growing larger and larger. It would be quite an amazing experience for us to fly F3F in your slope under sub-zero temperature. The solid ice together with the scattered rocks in this slope would be very challenging for landing the big F3F moldies without damage. I still remember I got two small holes in the my Viking as a result of landing in Mt.Hwang-geum last April. Cheers and congratulation to the winners. |
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| Author: | Young-Seok Shin [ Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:33 pm ] |
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The top of Mt.Hwang-geum was covered with snow and the sky was overcast. 
Mr.Han & his new plane, Scorpion. He maidened and flown it at the 3rd round, but the 3rd round was cancelled due to the lack of wind. 
Hong-Soon Lim and his Acacia. 
Seung Hyun Lee, the chairman of Team Albatross & Korea R/C Slopsoaring Association. 
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