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Name: Jacky Wong
Topic: 問滑翔機性能
Date: 27 May 2005
Time: 02:02:51

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請問各位滑翔機師父，有冇玩過大陸雷達工作室制造，2m全玻璃綱山坡滑翔機。它在大風和微風時的性能如何？它的CG位幾多，重量加到幾多才好飛？﹝謝謝各位師父﹞。

Name: Jacky
Topic: 怎樣能做玻璃仟維機？
Date: 04 Apr 2005
Time: 18:56:14

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麥帥父： 請問你的玻璃仟維機怎樣做？用那些膠水？程序如何？

Name: AlexChan
Topic: 頭文字D3
Date: 30 Dec 2004
Time: 04:58:13

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Easy!!

Name: B
Topic: 52
Date: 30 Dec 2004
Time: 04:51:14

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Name: Rosie
Topic: 頭文字D3
Date: 30 Dec 2004
Time: 04:50:12

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???He!

Name: Rosie
Topic: AlexChan?
Date: 30 Dec 2004
Time: 04:49:09

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Name: Rosie
Topic: AlexChan?
Date: 30 Dec 2004
Time: 04:47:55

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Name: AlexChan
Topic: 頭文字D3
Date: 30 Dec 2004
Time: 04:46:06

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正丸第二戰超難打，第三戰仲易打﹗

Name: betty jean
Topic: jesus and ''more...666 jesus
Date: 18 Dec 2004
Time: 12:22:15

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greetingibidyoupeaceinthe nameofjesus..thekingdomofheavenis at hand in jesus name ALL PRAISE UNTO YAHWEH.station .2715w harrison chicago,ilgracias!!

Name: Anthony
Topic: Balsa foam in Hong Kong?
Date: 23 Nov 2004
Time: 15:48:12

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Hi! Where in Hong Kong can I get blocks of balsa foam? Please help.

Name: kitty
Topic: no
Date: 19 Nov 2004
Time: 01:10:00

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Hi! Hi! I am kitty!

Name: CY
Topic: 53 MHZ
Date: 09 Aug 2004
Time: 03:12:33

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我有一部JR MAX66 53 MHZ,聽朋友說最近有人使用不合法頻道被撿控，因剛從Singapore回港不知道詳情。

Name: CY
Topic: 53 MHZ
Date: 09 Aug 2004
Time: 02:55:11

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我有一部JR MAX66 53 MHZ,聽朋友說最近有人使用不合法頻道被撿控，因剛從Singapore回港不知道詳情。

Name: 堅
Topic: 大天清氣(9:30am)# # # # #
Date: 09 Mar 2004
Time: 18:45:22

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東南風!##

Name: 亞蘇
Topic: 亞堅
Date: 08 Mar 2004
Time: 08:33:57

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你好似！！！！！！！咁嘅，好多！！！！！！！Ｄ咁嘅嘢，喺咪個Ｄ抬住隻機走嚟走去呀，哈哈哈！

Name: 堅
Topic: ALLEN ! 坪輋.
Date: 07 Mar 2004
Time: 19:51:09

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嘩!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!見過未!見過未!!!!!!!!D Thermal 靓到極點!!!!!幾部電機飛到見唔到!包括2.2m skyseigo,2.5m(ACTHOBBY)超重,電BEE,電FLUFFIE,仲SET DOWNN 飛!ALLEN CALL 我帶你去年!TEL 96408683.

Name: 堅
Topic: 大清天氣(9:30am)# # # # #
Date: 07 Mar 2004
Time: 18:47:58

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微東風,#.

Name: allen
Topic: 坪輋路
Date: 07 Mar 2004
Time: 01:14:13

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坪輋路? where ? have the map?

Name: 堅
Topic: servo s-3102
Date: 05 Mar 2004
Time: 23:13:56

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有貨喇!

Name: 堅
Topic: 明天坪輋電機
Date: 05 Mar 2004
Time: 20:31:46

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9:30am坪輋路,TEL;96408683.

Name: 堅
Topic: : 大清天氣(9:30am)# # # # #
Date: 05 Mar 2004
Time: 20:03:22

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微東風,# # .

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: 天文台
Date: 05 Mar 2004
Time: 05:26:39

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個舊Forum就黎變成阿堅既私人講場同天文台!

Name: 堅
Topic: 試新場! sorry !要改期 !
Date: 04 Mar 2004
Time: 20:35:09

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公司有事,無假放,要改期,3月13/14日!

Name: 堅
Topic: 大清天氣(9:30am)# # # # #
Date: 04 Mar 2004
Time: 19:21:04

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微風 東北風,# #.

Name: 堅
Topic: 試新場
Date: 03 Mar 2004
Time: 19:39:55

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星期六有無人去坪輋,快D約定TEL:96408683

Name: 堅
Topic: 大清天氣(9:30am)# # # # #
Date: 03 Mar 2004
Time: 18:53:33

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東北風,###.

Name: 堅
Topic: 大清天氣(9:30am) # # # # #
Date: 02 Mar 2004
Time: 18:57:48

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強勁北風,#####

Name: Joe Ho
Topic: e-mail address
Date: 02 Mar 2004
Time: 08:13:53

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Stanley, 假如未滿額的話，可否為我開個 joe@rcsail.com 的嘅電郵? thx!

Name: 堅
Topic: 試飛
Date: 01 Mar 2004
Time: 19:57:32

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星期六,10:30-11:00am ,PING CHE ROAD 等 ,TEL:96408683.

Name: Stanley
Topic: New forum location
Date: 01 Mar 2004
Time: 00:17:08

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Just moved the new forum to a new directory so that the link can be easier to remember. Here is the link: http://www.rcsail.com/forum/index.php

Name: Willy
Topic: 用一個sevro既價錢去保障你身邊既等三者？
Date: 29 Feb 2004
Time: 07:55:21

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1. 你意思是入會、買保險？....................................................... 2. 「清水灣」人多、車多、機多，爭拗亦自然多。有關飛行安全的誰是誰非，有時好難講，別人可話︰「我係直插，但唔係在人頭殼頂上咁做，所以仍是安全！」，甚至「乜叫順時針、逆時針？有冇事前向我諮詢？我有話同意咩？」................................ 3. 為免擠迫、爭拗，你不如去少人些的場，例如《石澳》。

Name: 輝
Topic: re: hurt
Date: 28 Feb 2004
Time: 09:24:41

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Billy哥，惡人見到你就掉頭走，偕子見到你，邊到識你呀。你的link 應該係 http://www.geocities.com/hkrcss/downloadC.html

Name: Billy
Topic: Hurt
Date: 28 Feb 2004
Time: 06:38:45

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我比較鍾意聆聽，但有些事真是不吐不快。 小弟於較早前從美國定購一架36吋EPP滑翔機，滿懷高興於2004年2月23日下午4時45分到達清水灣試機，當時東風35-40mph，而企係我左手邊係有鬍鬚既師傅同我一齊研究該飛機性能，係我右手邊距離約4米有另一位大師傅，因為當時太大風，我架機多次係左邊飛入馬路然後立即從鬍鬚師傅頭上飛出去，我突然聽到右邊傳來一聲〝你係我頭上飛過三次〞，跟著我立即望過右邊，而之前企係我右邊那位大師傅就望著我好大聲講〝我同你講呀〞，我係一個初學者，玩左滑翔機8個月，都係買左唔夠20架機，我僅係立即講〝唔好意思、唔好意思〞，無論我架機有無真係於呢位大師傅頭上飛過，無論呢位大師傅幾無禮貌，總之因為我既飛行而引致呢位大師傅恐慌，係呢度我再次向呢位大師傅道歉。故事未完，跟著清水灣陀地就羅架miniNYX出黎近距離左插、右插、前插、後插，不理他人安全，呢位大師傅無去勸導陀地不突止，反而仲笑口淫淫埋去講揪插既心得。誰然我係一個初學者，亦地而處，你感受如何？回想我玩機既第三星期同另一位大大師傅因為空中相撞，而比呢位大大師傅用流利既亞媽、老頭粗口罵左22分46秒，呢件事唔想再提，但無獨有偶，呢位大大師傅正是大師傅的朋友，及後亦一同駕車離去。 其實我今次破例發言仲有野想講，之前有好多飛行安全的討論，安全的規定是必須要有，但係於任何周全的計劃，任何安全的防禦措施或者必須遵守規定的比賽、活動、競技………..等等，都會發生意料之外既事情，呢些意外係無可避免亦一定會發生，點解我地唔用一個sevro既價錢去保障你身邊既等三者，打過電話比義不容辭既Stanley 或者到http://www.geocities.com/hkrcss/downloadC.html，等我地既香港遙控滑翔飛行協會日漸興盛，有朝一日能夠爭取到香港指定場地，使各位飛機友能夠合情、合理同埋合法地去享受呢個航天既樂趣。 因小弟英文水準有限，未能翻譯出中文的神遂，請諒！

Name: 堅
Topic: (9:30am) 天氣 # # # # #
Date: 27 Feb 2004
Time: 18:49:27

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大清東北,20-30km, # # # .

Name: Raymond
Topic: kevlar Thread
Date: 26 Feb 2004
Time: 10:10:31

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I also need it to use it to tire things together, the whole frame is made from CF rods bent and tired together. will try the hardware store... Thanks anyways!

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: Kevlar
Date: 26 Feb 2004
Time: 08:53:39

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原來要黎咁用。。。。我估香港未必有適合呢種用途種 Kevlar cord. 偉高有一種外面包左膠既金屬 wire pull-pull control kit﹐ 都幾幼幾輕﹐我以前用係 power 機既 rudder 度, 唔知你隻IFO合唔合用。

Name: Raymond
Topic: kevlar Thread
Date: 26 Feb 2004
Time: 08:24:52

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Thanks! I need long threads. For example, a 20cm kevlar line to pull the control horn.

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: kevlar Thread
Date: 26 Feb 2004
Time: 08:11:16

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我有D 5.6 oz / yard Kevlar 布﹐你可以拆成 Kevlar束﹐ 我好少機會用﹐剪D俾你無問題﹐你要幾多 ?

Name: Raymond
Topic: kevlar Thread
Date: 26 Feb 2004
Time: 07:16:02

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I need some kevlar thread to repair my IFO, can't find any at wai-go. any idea where I can get some, or anyone here has some I can borrow?

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: A new forum
Date: 26 Feb 2004
Time: 01:55:05

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第日會唔會俾人上載照片或 video ? 有就正好多。

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: A new forum
Date: 26 Feb 2004
Time: 00:57:10

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I have just finished setting up a new forum. This will give a better and more convenient way of presenting your opinion. Please try the link and register an account. http://www.rcsail.com/phpBB2/index.php There still have some bugs and I am working on it in the meantime. Please let me know if you have any comments. After a few days of testing, I will formally insert the link and remove the old forum. Hope you like it. Regards

Name: PGM5
Topic: White EPP Foam
Date: 25 Feb 2004
Time: 22:13:30

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請各位師兄指教!我想問吓EPP Foam 係香港有冇得買呀?大約幾多錢呀? 我想買塊5mm Foam DIY 一架3D Funfly .請各位多指教!!

Name: PGM5
Topic: White EPP Foam
Date: 25 Feb 2004
Time: 22:11:44

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請各位師兄指教!我想問吓白 EPP係香港有冇得買呀?大約幾多錢呀? 我想買塊5mm Foam DIY 一架3D Funfly .請各位多指教!!

Name: 堅
Topic: 明天馬鞍
Date: 25 Feb 2004
Time: 19:02:22

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有無人去, 大約2:00pm !

Name: 堅
Topic: 大清天氣 (9:30am)# # # # #
Date: 25 Feb 2004
Time: 18:56:51

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微風,(東風),##

Name: Pitch stability
Topic: Y C Lui
Date: 25 Feb 2004
Time: 13:47:09

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我曾經將一隻 12 吋 翼展既 free flight 滑翔機 既水平尾翼拆走﹐改成無尾翼機﹐個隻機既翼都係一字形﹐無前掠或後掠。最初發覺隻機既俯仰安定性 (pitching stability) 好唔掂﹐將隻機水平掟出去之後﹐只有一半機會可以平飛﹐其他時間都係一離手就急速抬頭或墜頭。後來發覺原來係重心太後﹐只要將重心移前同加多D reflex (等同 trim 多D up) ﹐隻機就無論點掟都可以自動回復平飛﹐就算好大力咁 45 度向下掟出去﹐隻機都會好快自動飛番平﹐然後繼續保持平飛﹐直到機速減慢, 自己 land 返落黎。但係加大 reflex 會影響隻翼既性能 ﹐ 我用 Profili 2 比較過 MH45 同 MH45 加 4 度 reflex ( Elevon trim UP 4 度), 結果如下 ﹕ http://yclui.rchomepage.com/Misc/MH45_vs_MH45_more_reflex.jpg 好明顯加左 reflex 後隻翼既阻力係數 (Cd) 會大左 。

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: 未飛就補機 - 後記
Date: 25 Feb 2004
Time: 10:49:37

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曾經在此論壇提及跟 TUN 買機,飛機因包裝不善引至運輸過程中受損的事件,現在已得解決,TUN 願意退回部份金錢,或以優惠價購買其他的產品,投訴過程中亦見他們明理。特在此告之各位。

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: Pitch stability
Date: 25 Feb 2004
Time: 08:27:34

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Delta wing tends to be pitch sensitive. Generally, you need to set the control movements for elevator (both ailerons up or down)small, while the aileron differential for turning is large. For a small 24" plane, the elevator movement should be very small. Good luck.

Name: Novice
Topic: Beetle Airfoil
Date: 25 Feb 2004
Time: 07:14:57

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Is a plank flying wing more difficult to control, especially in terms of pitch stability? I have cut a pair of plank MH45 wings (24” each). However, I haven’t turned them into a Gulp-like flying wing yet, because of too much uncertainty.

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: Beetle's airfoil
Date: 25 Feb 2004
Time: 05:55:46

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I chose HN1038 because of its low drag characteristic. However, it is not a reflex airfoil as used in delta wings. Since Beetle was designed with full aileron extended right from the wing root to wing tip, we can simply use ailerons to provide the reflex needed.

Name: Novice
Topic: Bettle's Airfoil
Date: 25 Feb 2004
Time: 05:10:54

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The airfoil of the Beetle is HN 1038. It does not look like a typical flying wing airfoil. According to the Flying Wing Design http://www.mh-aerotools.de/airfoils/flywing1.htm , the flying wing airfoil should looks like a S because it needs a reflex at the trailing edge to maintain the pitch stability. Can anyone tell me why the Beetle’s airfoil has no reflex?

Name: Novice
Topic: Cut Foam Core
Date: 25 Feb 2004
Time: 05:00:19

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I have successfully cut RG15 wings and MH45 wings from a HK$12 foam block bought from large bookshops. The RG 15 wings are used for traditional glider, while the MH45 wings are for tailless Delta Wings. They all are taper. The gliders built by them flied gracefully over the sky of Clear Water Bay. I would like to share my experience here: Temperature: According to some tips found in a website, the power dissipated by the hot wire should be 1 watt per inch. Hence the voltage applied to the hot wire should be the square root of Resistance (ohm) of the wire times length (inch) of the wire. Template / Airfoil: I put all the x y co-ordinates of the airfoil into Excel and then let Excel to plot the template for me. I can manipulate the size by adjusting the scale setting at the print manager of Excel. Uneven surface due to uneven speed of the hot wire: So far I can not avoid this, but I can patch it. It is easy to even out the surface by sanding (use sandpaper). When a groove is too deep, I cut a narrow foam strip to fill it up, then use sandpaper to remove the excess strip. Hope the above can stimulate some innovative idea to improve the process.

Name: Willy
Topic: 烏蛟騰
Date: 25 Feb 2004
Time: 01:32:32

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最近塊草地的，是《烏蛟騰路》盡頭的公眾停車場。由《新娘潭路》的停車場起步，遠好多。

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: 烏蛟騰
Date: 25 Feb 2004
Time: 00:30:36

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Hello Willy, I found two car parks on the map: one is at Bridge's Pool road and another one is at Wu Kau Tang road (i.e., after the junction). which one are you refering to?

Name: Willy
Topic: 幾時再有電機聚會？
Date: 24 Feb 2004
Time: 23:16:30

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我或會今個週六、日，自己去《烏蛟騰》附近的一塊平地試下，距離停車場只有5分鐘步行路程。掂的話，可搵次大家齊來試下。

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: White Foam/Depron
Date: 24 Feb 2004
Time: 22:04:55

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白 foam ﹕ 普通白色﹐由一粒粒發泡膠組成,原料係 Poly-Styrene, 好脆﹐一見天那水就溶 EPP : 外表同白 foam 一樣﹐原料係 Poly-Propylene﹐好韌﹐唔怕天那水 Depron: 白色高密度發泡膠板﹐無一粒粒既結構﹐好似飯盒膠﹐俗稱珍珠板﹐大文具舖有售。

Name: pgm5
Topic: White Foam/Depron
Date: 24 Feb 2004
Time: 21:08:15

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請各位師兄指教!我想問吓白 Foam 係咪即係EPP/Depron 呀?同香港有冇得買呀?大約幾多錢呀? 我想買塊5mm Foam DIY 一架3D Funfly .請各位多指教!!

Name: 堅
Topic: 大清天氣 # # # # # 滿分
Date: 24 Feb 2004
Time: 20:23:08

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微東風,大煙霞 # #

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: cut foam core
Date: 24 Feb 2004
Time: 08:14:33

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阿麥﹐我有限既 cut 翼經驗係徒手操縱發熱線係好難切得平滑架。只要發熱線既移動速度稍為有D唔平均﹐翼面就會出現一坑坑。切梯形翼仲難﹐因為翼既兩端緣長唔同﹐好難控制到發熱線兩邊一齊到位。 最好就係用美國 feather cut 既原理﹐用地心吸力幫手。日本同大陸已經有人成功整到呢副半自動切發泡膠翼裝置 http://park19.wakwak.com/~m-kimura/sub32f/sub322.htm , http://thomaswang.51.net/FC.htm 所費無幾﹐一晚搞掂﹐不妨試下。如果成功﹐記住過D料俾我。

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: cut foam core
Date: 24 Feb 2004
Time: 08:12:58

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阿麥﹐我有限既 cut 翼經驗係徒手操縱發熱線係好難切得平滑架。只要發熱線既移動速度稍為有D唔平均﹐翼面就會出現一坑坑。切梯形翼仲難﹐因為翼既兩端緣長唔同﹐好難控制到發熱線兩邊一齊到位。 最好就係用美國 feather cut 既原理﹐用地心吸力幫手。日本同大陸已經有人成功整到呢副半自動切發泡膠翼裝置 http://park19.wakwak.com/~m-kimura/sub32f/sub322.htm , http://thomaswang.51.net/FC.htm 所費無幾﹐一晚搞掂﹐不妨試下。如果成功﹐記住過D料俾我。

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: 壞鬼差机變左寶
Date: 24 Feb 2004
Time: 07:27:02

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YC, 我個陳年 Apex-1 差机，10多年前買返泥到E 家都未差得好 D 電蕊，成日差到D電發熱都唔停。燒死左我好幾條電蕊。 原來個机係設計泥做 HWC 用既！ 我試左成10年先到溫到佢既真正用途。 不過都算好彩，個机重未落垃圾筒！

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: blue foam
Date: 24 Feb 2004
Time: 07:04:44

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係呀 Stanley, 我 download 左個叫Profili 既軟件做 airfoil printing 。打算cut每邊4節，共8節既 foam。再加 glass fiber 上面，然後入真空袋。 雖然重未正式cut翼、你講既凹凸不平既問題，理論上同個 cutter 無關，而係個 template 做得唔滑，又或者拉個 HWC 既速度唔正確所致。不過我重未正式 cut 過隻翼。唔知係唔係因為未比錢登記！個 program 唔可以 print 到 D double template 出泥。只係印到 single template！可能要自已用把尺補返 D 底線落 D template 度。 亞堅講既 blue foam 個價、同我買既白foam 既價錢都差好遠！D 白foam 只賣廿幾蚊一張，或者應該用白foam試一隻机先？ 不過下次做 DLG 就點都要用 bluefoam 啦。

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: blue foam
Date: 23 Feb 2004
Time: 20:19:39

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阿麥﹐你部 Apex 差機睇黎真係壞得好緊要﹐我個部平價 Apex 要感應到電池既電壓先至肯放電﹐如果唔係就 short 埋個輸出都唔會有電流出。 Blue foam 係 DOW 化工既出品﹐有好多品種﹐雖然全部都係淺藍色﹐但重量同硬度可以爭好遠。香港代理只係進口幾隻品種 http://www.dow.com/webapps/lit/litorder.asp?filepath=styrofoam/pdfs/noreg/716-00250.pdf&pdf=true 我上次買既係 Roofmate﹐感覺硬度唔係好夠﹐做薄翼可能要用硬D既料(例如 Floormate 500 或 Floormate 700 ),買時要問清楚。

Name: 堅
Topic: BLUE FOAM
Date: 23 Feb 2004
Time: 19:16:41

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24"X48"X2" $140/PIECE ,CHEMICAL SHOP IN TUNG FONG ST,WAIGO MODEL RIGHT SIDE !

Name: 堅
Topic: 今日天氣(9:30am) # # # # #
Date: 23 Feb 2004
Time: 19:04:16

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勁東風 !30km/h #####

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: HWC
Date: 23 Feb 2004
Time: 08:10:52

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嘩啊麥好野喎，你有無試過用唔同電流對發熱線溫度既影響，界出黎既發膠有無凹凸不平？如果掂既話，就整機塊Beetle翼既template，然後界隻翼出黎玩吓。Beetle翼由於曲線多，我念至少要做兩三節翼才行。做咗foam core後是不是用bag纖維皮的方法？Good luck!

Name: K.Y. Mak
Topic: 邊度有 blue foam 賣？
Date: 23 Feb 2004
Time: 07:38:28

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唔記得幾時，又唔記得係邊位師兄的留言，講過話香港既建材店可以買到 blue foam！ 請講多次係邊間舖有得賣。重要詳細地址先找得到！ 我上個星期六去買左兩條木返來，一晚就造好左個30吋HWC (準備左成幾個月！) 係我第一次整玩具整得今快！ 當晚就立刻用個陳年 Apex 懷差机(唔識自動 cut電嗰隻)去試個 cutter。竟然一試就成功，好開心！ 我打算 bag 一隻 foam 蕊既GF Bettle。 有關既書同文章都讀左唔少，都係時候試下 D 理論洗唔洗得啦！

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 暴走狂風
Date: 23 Feb 2004
Time: 02:55:27

Message

下午4點﹐馬鞍山既風力升至“發顛”級﹐明顯勁過上星期日比賽既風力﹐估計有 60km/hr。 呢風大到對眼係咁標水﹐幾乎睇唔到隻機﹐掟機個陣要出力楂實隻機﹐幾乎摙爆隻翼﹐飛緊個陣條發射天線仲四圍發﹐個人要不斷同D風鬥力﹐我依家至知原來飛 F3F 都需要唔小體力。雖然我隻 Pike 已經入滿鉛﹐但仍然唔夠破風﹐所以無也點再快到﹐下次睇怕要用埋翼入面個條 ballast tube 至掂。飛完呢D風得到既體驗係飛 F3F 要快唔係一味靠好風﹐今日我有好多彎轉得唔順﹐狂風下依然可以拖到隻機慢晒。我依家開始明白點解英國 F3F Winter League 入面唔同機師飛出黎既時間可以爭咁遠(30幾秒到60幾秒).

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 馬鞍天氣(12:30pm) # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # 都係5粒#為滿分
Date: 22 Feb 2004
Time: 22:45:23

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半陰天﹐風速45km/hr(正東)﹐ Pike full ballast﹐唔用 speed flap 幾快﹐Elita 點整都唔快

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: 電池
Date: 22 Feb 2004
Time: 22:21:02

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Hello Willy, you MUST use the specific charger for the LiPo cell !!! Lipo cells are inflammable, and can explode if not handled correctly. Very dangerous!

Name: Willy
Topic: 電池
Date: 22 Feb 2004
Time: 22:06:22

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CM, 既然Ni-Mh唔掂，咁無謂考慮喇。.............................................. --.............................................................................. 有關 Lithium 電池，請問可否用Apex（用來充1-30 cell Ni-Cd, Ni-Mh）充電機差電？還是一定要用專用差機？

Name: 堅
Topic: 大清天氣(9:30am) # # # # # 5粒#為滿分
Date: 22 Feb 2004
Time: 20:00:09

Message

少少煙霞,風速20-25km/h,(東北) #＃#

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: Hitec Servo
Date: 22 Feb 2004
Time: 17:15:32

Message

Ah, so Angus got the NYX . . . .

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: Multiplex ASK18
Date: 22 Feb 2004
Time: 09:00:22

Message

Hello Willy, 大油,即大電流,則電池內阻引起之電壓降較大,電變看到的電壓便較低,於是便早了 cut 電。至於AA或AAA的NiMH就真的不用考慮! 因其內阻十分大,並不適用於大電流放電,以三羊的2100mAH AA NiMH為例,內阻達25mohm,8 cell 5A 放電便已少了1V! 如想輕量可考慮用鋰電,可參考以下網頁: http://www.stmodel.com/

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: Hitec Servo
Date: 22 Feb 2004
Time: 06:01:36

Message

Stanley, 也連我賣俾你個隻 125MG analog servo 都掃埋齒輪牙﹖咁就真係大鑊啦﹗我個8隻裝左係機既 Hitec wing servo 點算? 如果 Hitec D金屬齒輪咁脆弱﹐JR DS161都應該唔會好得去邊﹐咁剩低既選擇就只有 Volz Wing Maxx。我早排買過兩個 Volz micro maxx (同Futaba S3102 差唔多 size)﹐發覺D虛位大到得人驚﹐就即刻6折賣左俾RCSE上面既一個美國佬﹐用D錢買番兩個 Futaba S3102. 雖然個兩個 Volz servo 既虛位咁大﹐個美國佬依然開心到好似執到金咁﹐ 呢位仁兄對Volz既迷信程度都算誇張。由此推斷﹐Volz Wing Maxx 都可能有虛位問題﹐如果係真﹐咁10mm厚 servo 就完全無好選擇﹐點算 ? Angus, 我勸你都係唸清楚先至用我個兩隻 JR DS161 係你隻 NYX 度。

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: Hitec Servo
Date: 22 Feb 2004
Time: 05:06:22

Message

HI Y.C. 好明顯Hitec做Burn-in test唔係100%。我睇返MG5125既user instruction,他們說operating voltage在4.8至6v。我用個電表他個我個5-cell NiMH電池，無load是電壓達到8v，真係唔知Hitec servos頂唔頂得順！ 除咗隻MG5125數碼Servo燒咗外，我裝在Trinity個Flap上隻Analog MG125 servo既金屬齒輪都掃埋，拆開睇吓發覺Hitec的金屬齒輪真是好脆弱，明顯比Futaba的齒輪弱得多！以我記得我從來未掃過Futaba既金屬呀，甚至有幾次連條servo arm斷埋都未掃呀！我又發覺Hitec servo的虛位大得驚人既原因，Servo內既金屬呀是用兩條金屬柱固定在servo壳上，由於外壳是膠做，個膠壳從個模Bear出黎時是很難保正統一既高質量，這種用金屬柱來固定齒輪的做法就好似巳前Futaba既FS-143 servo(F3-31xx的前身)，而家FS-3102巳經唔用這方法。睇落我都係把兩隻Flap Hitec servos改用FS3102，情願突出來也好！

Name: Willy
Topic: Multiplex ASK 18
Date: 22 Feb 2004
Time: 03:38:27

Message

多謝兩位意見。.................................................................. ................................................................................................................................................................ 2.5 分鐘是full throttle。半油的話，會耐好多。但我覺得有潛在危險。Full throttle 直致最終 motor cut，大家都知電變會將淨餘電力，全留及遙控。我試過其後用Apex充電機放電，發覺仍可放成100mAh（out of 500 mAh，放電電流 500mA），應安全地夠遙控用。.. ................................................................................................................................................................ 但半油的話，真是可將電池在空中幾乎扯乾。我試過半油至 motor cut 後，降落後同樣方法放電，最多只可放 47 mAh。..................................................... ................................................................................................................................................................ 電池方面，請問咁多位，用超級市場賣的 GP Ni-Mh（棄用Sanyo 急充 Ni-Cd），掂唔掂？我指的是 GP 的 AAA （去到成 1000mAh）及 AA（可達 2100mAh） size。

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: Hitec wing servo
Date: 22 Feb 2004
Time: 03:11:59

Message

同D鬼佬係網上討論過 Stanley 最近連環瓜兩隻 Hitec 5125MG 數碼 servo 單野﹐有D話係因為Stanley 用5粒接收電導致﹐但亦有人話唔關事﹐因為佢試過用5粒電係好多牌子同型號既 servo 都無問題﹐仲用好強既措辭叫D人唔好繼續散播呢個錯誤觀念。真係唔明佢點解咁肉緊。 另外一個人差測Stanley 個兩隻 servo 有部份電子零件有問題。又話係咁既情況下隻 servo 通常會好早期就病發玩完。佢話呢D係 solid state 電子零件既特性﹐要瓜就好早瓜﹐唔係就可以用一世。我雖然係 EE 出身﹐不過都係第一次聽到呢個理論。但係佢講既野又似乎同實況好吻合﹐Stanley 個兩隻 servo 都係裝機個陣或係第一個 flight 就瓜﹐阿 Kong 個隻 Hitec 125MG 既情況一樣﹐只係飛左一個 flight 就燒到個 servo 殼熔開個窿. 我個8隻 servo 就飛左好耐都無事﹐希望跟著都係咁。 Hitec 既質量控制睇落真係有D問題﹐但係佢既價錢平 JR DS161 同 Volz Wing Maxx 一截﹐我會繼續用。但裝落機之前我會用發射既 servo test function 煲D servo 一輪﹐仲要係 servo 臂上加負荷﹐如果幾個鐘後隻 servo 仲識郁﹐應該都會幾安全。我下星期就會寄隻壞 servo 過美國 Hitec 廠修理﹐阿 Kong﹐ 如果你想一齊寄埋你個隻 servo, 請聯絡我 Tel: 90204046, email: yclui@netvigator.com

Name: 堅
Topic: WILLY 電機 !
Date: 21 Feb 2004
Time: 23:12:57

Message

WILLY 你用500MAH 太細,改用1000-1200MAH 會妤妤多,最少可以 飛4-5分鐘,收油飛仲長D時間!

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: ASK18
Date: 21 Feb 2004
Time: 22:17:28

Message

Hi Willy, 現有翼面績及翼形,重量等資料,重新再輸入motocalc,結果為勉強能飛,不如考慮用12X8槳,爬升率可由0.62m/s提升到1.46m/s。 . . . . . . . . . . . 只能飛兩分半鐘?Motocalc話可飛6分鐘的!?

Name: 財叔
Topic: 飛行安全
Date: 21 Feb 2004
Time: 06:18:15

Message

小弟十分認同 Stanley 的看法. 遙控滑翔機是一種充滿樂趣的運動, 只是很容易玩至樂極忘形, 疏忽了大眾的安全. 這點亦是我常常會犯的錯誤. 因此, 當有些時候發覺有師兄用銳利的眼光望著我時,自己便知到可能是玩到過了火位. 其實, 是應該多謝他們題醒的. 所以, 我時時走到山上去, 但是也不時有冒險的飛行, 相信老友 Raymand, Kong 及老虎機...等便最清楚了. 這也是我喜歡在平日上山單獨飛行的原因. 是最能測試自己的機會. 不知各位師父師兄們是否亦有同感. 故此若然飛行協會能不拘小節, 挻身而出一統各界飛行標準, 將是天下幸事. 明事理者定必支持.

Name: Willy
Topic: CM Cheng，請用 Motoclac 幫我計計
Date: 21 Feb 2004
Time: 06:05:51

Message

Multiplex ASK18，1.5m，Speed 400 加 Robbe 波箱（1:3.7），8 cell，500mAh，Robbe 電變（最高 18A），11x6 螺旋槳，39.13g/sq dm，AUW 900g，Jedelsky 翼型（超級 undercamber），盡油最多2.5 分鐘，然後motor cut。.......................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... 今日「科大」試，好過以前用 7 cell 時，可在收風時拉 up 作 shallow climb，當然不能好像阿堅咁拉up 然後 45 度角扯上去。

Name: 亞蘇
Topic: Stanley 請食飯！
Date: 21 Feb 2004
Time: 05:59:16

Message

Stanley 請食飯！予埋我好噃，係邊處食，等我霸定位！！！！

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: Stanley 請食飯！
Date: 20 Feb 2004
Time: 23:17:31

Message

Stanley, 你架新車都係車得 4 個人！ 咁我快 D 報名去食你餐飯先，唔係好快就冇位啦！

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: ASK18 試飛
Date: 20 Feb 2004
Time: 12:24:02

Message

Hi Willy, 我把你的資料輸入motocalc,估計隻ASK18未必飛得起,建議你預備一些較大螺距的槳,如11X8或11X9作測試,祝成功。

Name: stanley chan
Topic: 無詐詐帝帝喎
Date: 20 Feb 2004
Time: 08:41:03

Message

我無詐詐帝帝喎，雖然興幸勝出，比賽能夠順利完成，都是大家既努力。等我架新車出世，就車大家去飲番餐茶興祝吓！

Name: Willy
Topic: 明天2月21日
Date: 20 Feb 2004
Time: 07:31:35

Message

預報只有2-3級，東至東南風，有冇人飛電機？我下午會去「科大」試架 Multiplex ASK18，1.5m，Speed 400 加 Robbe 波箱（1:3.7），8 cell，500mAh，Robbe 電變（最高 18A），11x6 螺旋槳。以前 7 cell，好勉強，希望今次加到 8 cell，會有改善。

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: Stanley 好似仲未請食飯
Date: 20 Feb 2004
Time: 03:21:25

Message

唔好詐詐帝帝無件事。。。。

Name: Stanley
Topic: Common target?
Date: 20 Feb 2004
Time: 02:46:59

Message

Not really! The target should be the one who owns the best weapon with the mean to use it properly. If you look at the movie of Fat Fai's F3F run at http://www.rcsail.com/NYX_f3f_run.mov (actually it was a false run, the judge made a mistake to count one more lap and the result was dismissed), you will notice that he flew 6 laps of 1.2km with 58s, that means 1km at 48.3s! By judging that the track he flew was bumping up and down, and was not straight, I guess, if he can manage to fly the NYF straight, the time will be in the 3x. I will not be that lucky if he tunes his plane to the optimal state for the next race!

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: To Stanley - Target
Date: 20 Feb 2004
Time: 01:56:09

Message

" . . . At least I need to know who will be the target in the next race . . ." With 42 sec on hand YOU are our common target !!

Name: Ah Pong
Topic: Very expensive NYX
Date: 20 Feb 2004
Time: 01:20:57

Message

Hey Stanley, are you mean 7,000- instead of 70,000-? Secondly, I have to declare that the mystery owner is not me, as Pauline would kill me. he he...

Name: Willy
Topic: NYX
Date: 20 Feb 2004
Time: 01:16:31

Message

那間鋪頭有得賣？

Name: Ah Pong
Topic: Which or Winch
Date: 20 Feb 2004
Time: 01:11:30

Message

Hi Willy, I have thought the same thing when I was reading the article, that they might mistype the word when putting the Laws on-line. However, I went to library this afternoon to read the formal copy of the Laws of HK. The hard copy also printed as “Which”. Don’t know why…………….???

Name: stanley chan
Topic: NYX F3F Price Increase
Date: 20 Feb 2004
Time: 00:52:34

Message

I got the message that they increased HK$500 to $7xxxx after knowing the overwhelming good responds from fellow pilots after the race! Who is the owner? I want to know too! At least I need to know who will be the target in the next race.

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: NYX 已經名機有主
Date: 20 Feb 2004
Time: 00:18:19

Message

Hi YC, I don't understand, do you mean they changes the price tag right before you after asking for the race result? I am very happy that Hong Kong is still a free market! So what is the new price? If it is still lower than buying on the net then I think it is still acceptable, at least we can check the plane throughfully before buy!

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: NYX 已經名機有主
Date: 19 Feb 2004
Time: 23:08:56

Message

不過唔係我。星期一去模型舖問發覺店員已經收到料﹐仲問肥輝比賽快成點﹐跟着就即刻換左個價錢牌。真激氣 ﹗有無人知道係邊個漏料俾佢地 ?

Name: Willy
Topic: Aero-tow 之限制
Date: 19 Feb 2004
Time: 22:58:21

Message

Air Navigation (Hong Kong) Order 1995 (Cap.448C) 第 38 條談及上述，其中無「最高升空高度」之限制，但有提及 The length of the combination of towing aircraft, tow rope and glider in flight shall not exceed 150 metres。

Name: Willy
Topic: 升空高度限制
Date: 19 Feb 2004
Time: 22:48:45

Message

Aero-tow 不涉 winch, cable, ground or sea tow，應不受 s.70(1)(f) 管制之列。否則真滑翔機，豈非只能升至60m，如何搵熱氣流？

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: glider 有著數 ?
Date: 19 Feb 2004
Time: 22:39:01

Message

聽完 Willy 對有關法例既專業詮釋﹐民航法對模型滑翔機好似特別“關照”﹐只係唔可以 launch 到 60米以上﹐launch後只要唔飛入飛機航道﹐飛幾高都得﹐仲可以係郊野公園入面飛. 我估寫條例個人一定係玩 glider。照咁睇﹐係唔係所有動力模型飛機都唔可以飛高過 60米 ?

Name: Ken
Topic: 路邊擲glider
Date: 19 Feb 2004
Time: 20:17:43

Message

弊, 我最近用我的摩打機將三角板吊上高空才分開，高度肯定超過60米。我原來犯了法也不知道。下次我吊機上天要限定60米高度了。

Name: Willy
Topic: 路邊擲glider
Date: 19 Feb 2004
Time: 19:49:57

Message

阿邦，s.70(1)(f) 是話 a glider or parascending parachute shall not be launched by which (我估是winch）and cable or by ground or sea tow to a height of more than 60 metres above ground or sea level，無話不准在路邊手擲，然後讓架機「自行」soar 至超過 60m 高度。............................................................................................................................................................ 我覺得，此例禁止的，是用足以令架機升至60m 以上的「超長」winch, cable 等。

Name: Ah Pong
Topic: 飛行安全
Date: 19 Feb 2004
Time: 19:33:47

Message

Dear Stanley, I support your proposal which we shall do some measures to ensure safety. In fact, after reading the argument between Mr. Nonsense and Willy, I doubt quite much whether we are in certain extend, have contravened the said order (Cap 448C). I studied a bit, and found that the order does mention a glider shall not be launched ………….etc… in section 70 (1)(f). Whilst many fellows misinterpreted that any glider weighing below 7 kg (including Mr. Nonsense and myself) is exampled from this order. However, section 100 does mention the provisions apply to section 70. Furthermore, according to Schedule 1A, glider is classified as aircraft (I am not sure whether RC model is included). Since I am a layman in relation to such legal terms, I wonder whether our insurance would be voided, if we have contravened this order. With a view to promote this meaningful sport, shall we step up a mechanism similar to HKPA (HK paraglider association) to regulate our activity? HKPA claimed that they had been authorized to do so. They set some qualification such as student pilot, club pilot, instructor etc. A student pilot has to be accompanied by a club pilot for flying in Shek O etc. Shall we do the same thing? What is other fellow’s view?

Name: ming
Topic: 飛行安全
Date: 19 Feb 2004
Time: 11:22:09

Message

其實各位應該都是過來人,所以應該知道每個新人或未受過教訓都會同樣錯過,由其大清地點問題,所以意外特別多過人,只要各位師傅主動張發生意外後的問題話比佢地知(如民航處介入就大家都冇得玩),我相信就會修儉D既,千其唔好企係對面馬路話呢個危險,呢個亂黎就好D好似今日在大清見到有個都叫做新人用架EPP練land馬路,我都話D意外後果比佢聽,佢都好受落,須然我未做你地會員,但我想提議下敝會定下基本飛行守則(例如:對頭飛行時向右避對方,上下同方向時先讓下方轉向,等等)印小冊子給各位師兄弟,讓大家默守成規後,相信意外應該會減少D。

Name: Stanley
Topic: 飛行安全
Date: 19 Feb 2004
Time: 07:59:23

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當然HKRCSS沒有權力去管他人怎樣放滑翔機，但我覺得協會應該以教育形式去鼓勵安全飛行。我們唯一可以做的就是印制一些安全手則攘新加入的朋友有一個正確的安全意息。我們還可以鼓勵本會有經驗的機師去盡量去指導他們。當在飛行場上大部份人都把正確的安全訊息常常掛在口邊的時候，就算你怎樣不顧自身安全，也多少不敢在人多的時候胡亂飛行嗎！

Name: Willy
Topic: 飛航安全
Date: 19 Feb 2004
Time: 07:52:35

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不如邀請「民航處」有關官員，親臨《清水灣》觀摩，及採取行動好過啦，唔使自己管。

Name: Willy
Topic: 飛行安全
Date: 19 Feb 2004
Time: 07:26:30

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好難由 HKRCSS 搞，因為總會牽涉「為何我要聽你個會之笛？你個會有乜權管我先？」等問題。況且現行法例巳有監管，而執法機關又不是任何民間組織。 我寧願等差人、民航處等調查及決定是否根據 Air Navigation (Hong Kong) Order 1995 (Cap.448C)作出檢控好過。 我記得「民航處」曾出 email 給予 HKRCSS，談及「飛航安全」的問題。若 Stanley 能將有關內容放上網，我覺得巳鞠躬盡瘁、交足功課。

Name: stanley chan
Topic: Problem with forum
Date: 19 Feb 2004
Time: 05:54:40

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The problem of <cr> in this forum seems can not be solved easily. It is better than having a very long line. So I would prefer to keep it as it is until I've finished developing a better forum. Regards Stanley 

Name:  Y C Lui
Topic: forum setting problems
Date:  19 Feb 2004
Time:  03:38:49

Message:

Stanley, 好似仲有小小問題﹐ 你個 post 最長個句唔識自動 warp back。仲有可唔可以將D字變返黃色﹖

Name:  Stanley Chan
Topic: Accident in Clearwater Bay
Date:  19 Feb 2004
Time:  03:25:48

Message:

Hi fellow r/c soarers,

I have received a few comments on the accidents last Sunday in Clearwater Bay
and in another occasion in Fei Ngo Shan, both cases involved police.

I guess the situation in Clearwater Bay is increasing worse if actions are
not taken to prevent further accidents.

Should we discuss the safety matters for all aspects of r/c soaring in the forecoming HKRCSS committee meeting?

I think HKRCSS can play a major role in promoting the safety standard in our flying fields. May be we can embark to make a safety guideline or booklet to be distributed to existing or new r/c soarers, no mater they are HKRCSS members or not.

Sure we can do more before the Government wake up and close our flying fields for good!


Name:  Stanley Chan
Topic: forum problem
Date:  19 Feb 2004
Time:  03:03:32

Message:

Hello,
After a few changes of setting,
I guess it is ok now.

The problem with <cr>
should be solved.

Thanks
Stanley

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: 搞也鬼 ?
Date: 19 Feb 2004
Time: 02:16:03

Message

I want to see if we can use the html mark up to make the breaks. It is not possible. The program converted all the "<" and ">" into "&lt;" and "&gt;". I think it is only a little setting to the program to make the <CR> effective again. . . . . . . . . "yclui_hk" but not "Y C Lui"?

Name: yclui_hk
Topic: 搞也鬼 ?
Date: 19 Feb 2004
Time: 02:03:15

Message

????

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: Test
Date: 19 Feb 2004
Time: 00:21:06

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Line 1</p>Line 2</p>Line 3

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: Testing? Seems funny!
Date: 19 Feb 2004
Time: 00:19:55

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Line 1<br> Line 2<br> Line 3

Name: Willy
Topic: test
Date: 18 Feb 2004
Time: 23:57:43

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test [spacebar] [fullstop].

Name: Willy
Topic: test
Date: 18 Feb 2004
Time: 23:56:06

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test [spacebar] . test [fullstop].....................................................................................................

Name: Raymond
Topic: wahhh...so many people!
Date: 18 Feb 2004
Time: 08:46:06

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didn't fly for a while, how did the slope get so crowded now. remember the good old day, when there's only 3-5 guys in CWB on weekdays...

Name: Mak
Topic: 幾時 post 先至可以分段 ?
Date: 18 Feb 2004
Time: 05:15:38

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我相信個forum 既程式係特別設計成、將 D carrige return 全部取消，以便用最少空間，show 最多既內文！係唔係呀 Stanley ?

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 幾時 post 先至可以分段 ?
Date: 17 Feb 2004
Time: 17:53:56

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Willy 個 post 咁多 "*",我正先仲以為佢個 keyboard 有問題﹐後來唸下應該係 Willy 想將個 post 分段﹐條橋都幾新鮮。Stanley, 個 forum 既程式幾時先至識得唔食走 post 入面既 carriage return ?

Name: Willy
Topic: Air Navigation (Hong Kong) Order 1995 (Cap.448C)
Date: 17 Feb 2004
Time: 07:13:32

Message

Yes, model aircraft over 7kg needs to comply with ALL provisions in the above Order. That includes registration, pilot's licence, insurance, etc. However, the Order also says that you can apply for exemptions. Civil Aviation Dept told me that those jet modellers in HK did apply for, and were given exemptions on conditions such as insurance and the use of PCM radio with failsafe set to "zero throttle" in case of interference.*************************************************************************************************************************************************** As to the "60m from street" rule, s.70 does NOT say it applies to aircraft at all. It only mentions kites, balloons, parachutes, etc.************************************************************************************************************************************************************* An offence under s.48 requires negligence and recklessness. That's the mental element required.******************************************************************************************************************************************************** Under s.2 of the Road Traffic Ordinance (Cap.374), "vehicle" means any vehicle whether or not mechanically propelled which is constructed or adapted for use on roads. Model cars aren't for use on roads, so they're not regulated by this law.

Name: 亞蘇
Topic: 本年度第一次執委會會議
Date: 17 Feb 2004
Time: 06:56:39

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各位 HKRCSS 執位會會員，第一次召集，鐵定於本年三月六日星期六下午六時，舉行本年度第一次會議，請各部門主管、執位準時出席，地點：九龍彩雲? 彩龍大酒樓 會議廳。另外秘書亦會個別通知各執位會會員，Thx。

Name: 亞蘇
Topic: 清水?意外
Date: 17 Feb 2004
Time: 06:40:16

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唉！小弟有過以下經驗！有一日是平日，我早上十一時許到大清放機，雖然人機數目不多，但都有幾隻三角板，同我隻60 吋模機飛緊，之後又?多位師兄一齊飛Ｄ60 吋模機，呢位師兄初初都在外圍快插一輪，之後就越飛越近石𡒊，最近個下由呢位師兄背後，即後山高處，由馬路邊向海邊方向俯衝而下，呢位師兄立即轉身離開石𡒊邊，睇住隻機距離𡒊邊?至三米處，高速飛去，我在呢位師兄身邊飛緊，初頭都唔知乜事，等佢隻模機?我背後插落?，係我前面飛佐出去我先知呢位師兄咁玩法，仲唔止一次，甘我就立即Land機，呢位師兄重放，任何角度都快插一輪越玩越埋，落個陣完全無提醒側近Ｄ人，唉！技冠群倫，無計也！雖然無意外發至，但比Ｄ師弟睇到，跟住學埋咁飛，你話仲有乜好.....講呀！

Name: Nonsence
Topic: to willy
Date: 17 Feb 2004
Time: 04:48:20

Message

Hi Willy, after reading the sections in CAP 448, I was shocked. Just a few silly questions from me regarding your previous post, does the ordinance mean a RC glider weighing 7.5 kg or above, have to be registered in accordance with section 3? Does the ordinance mean all slope gliders are illegal as they fly more than 60 meters (Clear Water Bay also exceeds 60 meters from sea level) in accordance with section 70? Does Mens Rea is required to prove the contravention in section 48? (ie. reckless and/or negligence) Similarly, does all RC cars are governed by the Road Traffic Ordinance, Cap 374? Shall we call us as RC modeller instead of pilot? Pardon me if the questions are obviously wrong. Regards.

Name: Danny
Topic: 清水灣意外
Date: 17 Feb 2004
Time: 00:07:50

Message

真係悲哀, 發生意外, 大家都唔想. 不過也不能只怪新手, 新手故固然要多向前輩學習, 老手見有人亂飛時亦應加以指導提點. 不要只顧自樂. 大家開心, 豈不樂哉?

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 清水灣意外
Date: 16 Feb 2004
Time: 23:11:15

Message

清水灣依家已經變左個紙鳶場﹐好多人(特別係新人)係度放機都係當放紙鳶﹐但係呢D紙鳶極具殺傷力﹐車都可以撞凹。我見過幾次有D機師撞到人唔理﹐執機行左去﹐撞到車仲話個車主唔應該泊D車係度﹐撞到無得賠﹐真誇張。再係咁落去睇怕民航署都要將模型飛機管制到好似滑翔傘運動咁﹐要玩模型飛機既人組成 self-governing body, 任何係香港玩模型飛機既人﹐不論幾資深﹐一定要持有組織發出既牌照同已經購買第三者保險﹐否則屬違法。

Name: Willy
Topic: 清水灣意外
Date: 16 Feb 2004
Time: 20:18:48

Message

差人識做的話，可能會轉介「民航署」，後者會知，按 AIR NAVIGATION (HONG KONG) ORDER 1995 (CAP.448C) 第48條︰A person shall not recklessly or negligently cause or permit an aircraft to endanger any person or property。而根據第100(c)條，重量不超過 7kg 的「小型飛機」，亦受第48條監管。

Name: Ken
Topic: 清水灣意外
Date: 16 Feb 2004
Time: 19:40:31

Message

星期日下午清水灣又發生意外。一位新師兄將三角板擲出後，飛機隨之轉回路邊。撞正一位女路人之頭部。接著是十字車，警車到場。 最後機師，飛機及遙控器都被一起帶回警處。 後來怎樣我就不知道了。

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: NYX - 無啦﹗
Date: 16 Feb 2004
Time: 03:09:26

Message

唉﹗Stanley, 我踏登唔提肥輝隻 NYX, 尋日又即刻賣左隻 Sting 黎籌集資金﹐都係因為想快人一步去抬走隻 NYX﹐依家睇怕都唔駛只以。不過講真﹐尋日隻 NYX 既表現真係令人括目﹐網上呢友話第一隻出模既 NYX tune 都未 tune 過就贏左奧地利既 F3F 賽﹐奧地利高手如雲﹐我正先仲以為佢地誇大﹐依家我信到十足十。因為尋日肥輝隻 NYX 只係第一次飛﹐已經有咁既表現﹐再飛熟D肯定不得了。隻機雖然都幾貴﹐但似乎物有所值. 呢個消息千祈唔好傳比 Breta 聽﹐如果唔係 NYX 實聽加價。

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: F3F賽後檢討
Date: 16 Feb 2004
Time: 01:57:31

Message

昨日的F3F賽真是緊張刺激。雖然小弟以隻Sting做出最快時間，但我覺得肥輝隻NYX F3F才是飛得最快既機種。如果你留心睇睇肥輝既成積，他六個回合都在5x秒內，以我記得他至少有兩個回合轉彎偷步，需要返回再轉，但成積依然在5x秒內。我也偷過步，但成積巳立即跌到6x秒！如果他飛條track飛得順，肯定冠軍非拒莫屬。NYX果然係好機，有很好直線破風速度、轉彎又敏捷，睇落下次F3F賽定會有多幾架NYX出現！我也覺得啊麥隻New Sting發揮得很好，Y.C.既手指飛隻PIkeWR也發輝得很好，明顯地比師傳梁飛隻PIkeWR順好多！下次F3F賽真是有一番龍爭虎鬥！

Name: Danny
Topic: To Ah Pong - Notebook RAM
Date: 16 Feb 2004
Time: 00:30:51

Message

Try this http://www.ramshop.net it is in Hong Kong. Also, PC-133 RAM could be used on your notebook, but mind you that some notebooks have their own RAM module standard. You may call them for enquiry. Happy multi-tasking :)

Name: 亞蘇
Topic: 今日F3F
Date: 15 Feb 2004
Time: 06:13:04

Message

?度恭喜 Stanley 今日馬鞍山賽事又一次得到冠軍，可喜可賀，而且仲破?香港?紀錄，証明香港機司的水準，十分超卓；仲有Ｄ?要?今日參賽?機司幫手，我借出三對講機其中一部插?一個免提耳筒機的一部，到完賽事後Ｄ機全數收回，獨有一部?免提耳筒暫時失去?影，我又冇同"佢"裝B B，都唔知個免提去?邊，如各機司大佬找到，煩交 Stanley 兄，代為保管，Thx。

Name: Ah Pong
Topic: help.....help............
Date: 15 Feb 2004
Time: 05:15:54

Message

Dear fellows and masters, I have a notebook computer equipped with 128 MB (2x 64MB) of RAM. However, after upgraded the Operation System to Win XP, I found the speed is quite slow due to insufficient of RAM. Does anyone get two 128MB of notebook RAM in PC-100 standard?? They could be found at the bottom of your drawer!! I tried to go to Golden Center but could not buy any since the standard (PC-100) has been outdated!! Many thanks.........

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 香港 F3F 歷史里程碑
Date: 15 Feb 2004
Time: 04:02:27

Message

今日天文台既預測又係神奇地準確﹐馬鞍山呢風勁到暈﹐肥輝用風速錶度到既最高風速係 50 km/hr ﹐即係 6 級。好多機師都打破個人記錄﹐但最開心既要算係 Stanley, 佢再度改寫香港 F3F 記錄﹐做出 42 秒既驕人佳積﹐不單清脆地衝破 50 秒關口﹐並為下一目標 3x 秒締造希望。 Stanley 亦係今日全場總冠軍﹐真係可喜可賀 。 除 Stanley 外 ﹐ 阿麥亦已晉身為 “4字頭” 機 師﹐ 係今日賽事既亞軍, 佢同 Stanley 用既武器都係 Sting 家族既戰機﹐ 可見 Sting 系既性能真係有番咁上下﹐ 不過最重要既都係 Stanley 同阿麥既過彎技術﹐ 可以做到隻機幾乎無能量損耗 。 今日我又學到唔小野 ﹐ 以後一定要努力練習, 希望下次比賽可以做到更好成積 。

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: Big wind this Sunday
Date: 13 Feb 2004
Time: 03:02:09

Message

除打風外﹐呢種風真係平時好少有﹐仲要係星期日﹐個天今次都算俾足面。咁既風呢機快到驚就唔在講﹐頂風開 butterfly landing 隻機仲會垂直降落﹐好似直升機咁。所以記著個日 landing 千祈唔好兜咁入﹐如果唔係實聽落行山徑甚至樹林。 我個日打算開檔賣鉛﹐你估可以賣幾錢兩 ?

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: Big wind this Sunday
Date: 13 Feb 2004
Time: 02:04:57

Message

Just noticed that HKO has changed their weather forcast for this Sunday - easterly wind with scale 5 or 6 offshore! Wow, it would be good fun up on Ma On Shan. Come and create your own best time records! See you there.

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 星期六試機
Date: 12 Feb 2004
Time: 02:27:02

Message

無問題﹐一於星期六石澳。有無其他人一齊 ?

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: 星期六試機
Date: 12 Feb 2004
Time: 02:07:29

Message

東北風當然最好是石澳，但我早上有事要到１點半後才得閒，如去石澳可不可以下午才去，而且我無車，要勞煩各位載我一程。

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 星期六試機
Date: 11 Feb 2004
Time: 22:34:32

Message

Stanley, 無問題﹐我車埋你﹐個日吹東北風﹐如果時間唔迫可以考慮去石澳。

Name: 亞寬
Topic: 明天會更好
Date: 11 Feb 2004
Time: 09:21:49

Message

天氣一晴個人心情都特別好。

Name: Angus
Topic: F3F賽幾多個回合
Date: 11 Feb 2004
Time: 05:29:08

Message

星期六下午要交人,不如一早九點鍾上馬鞍山試機。

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: F3F賽幾多個回合
Date: 10 Feb 2004
Time: 09:33:02

Message

我覺得可能的話盡量賽多幾個回合，因為如果回合多而風力較平均，就會特顯機師既技術多於運氣。不如安排賽事早些開始，上午9:00正好不好？那麼我們早上8點鐘就要開始上山。我往馬鞍山咁近，無問題。講開又講，我想星期六上馬鞍試試隻大蕉先，有無人想一齊去？由於小弟隻代步馬被迫退休，可能要各位幫忙車啲飛機上半山。

Name: Angus
Topic: Graupner Servo
Date: 10 Feb 2004
Time: 07:59:02

Message

有冇人知邊度有Graupner C3241 or C3341 servo 買?

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 英國 F3F 賽果
Date: 10 Feb 2004
Time: 06:25:57

Message

http://www.rc-soar.com/bmfa_league/comps/wl2003/ 睇完之後有幾樣野唔明﹐班英國佬有成二十幾人參賽﹐點解人地一日可以飛成8個回合咁多既呢﹖英國依家係冬天﹐有日頭既時間好短﹐照計飛足一日都唔夠時間架﹖我地係香港飛4到5級風就話頂唔順﹐人地係嚴冬5到7級風力下竟然可以飛成日﹐­唔通佢地大癮到唔知凍﹖仲有就係佢地係同一回合各機師既成積差距可以好大﹐最快個個飛三十幾秒﹐但最慢個個竟然超過一分鐘﹐唔通佢地有D人用EPP機出賽﹖

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: What is F3F?
Date: 10 Feb 2004
Time: 05:40:16

Message

Wow Mak's rules have a lot to read! Kelvin, you can go here http://www.sloperacing.com/images/valdrome[1].mpeg to see a short video for what it's all about.

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: what is F3F?
Date: 10 Feb 2004
Time: 05:05:19

Message

Kevin, this link tells you all the rules about F3F race. http://www.geocities.com/hkrcss/F3F_rules.html

Name: Kevin
Topic: sorry....what is F3F?
Date: 10 Feb 2004
Time: 02:28:30

Message

Is it all about racing on a circle path? sorry for stupid question...

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: F3F 賽
Date: 09 Feb 2004
Time: 19:52:21

Message

咁就一於馬鞍山啦﹗天氣預報仍然非常樂觀﹐希望今次可以做到 4 字頭既時間記錄﹐各兄弟快D set好隻機﹐星期日一定有一番龍爭虎鬥﹐今次有好多新武器出賽﹐Akanj, 大NYX, Trinity, Spider X.... 要贏真係唔易。

Name: sebastian
Topic: B4 bingo
Date: 09 Feb 2004
Time: 16:59:54

Message

Does anybody know wehrer to get parts for a B4 bingo, or have the intrustions please send response to sebastian907@yahoo.com

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: F3F賽
Date: 09 Feb 2004
Time: 11:02:33

Message

十幾架大機,成二三十人,石澳山頭肯定迫爆! 我都覺得馬鞍山較適合。

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: F3F賽
Date: 09 Feb 2004
Time: 08:26:21

Message

如果如YC所言，石澳同馬鞍山既升力都係差唔多既話、就㹴係馬鞍山好D啦，起碼 Landing 無壓力嗎！

Name: 亞蘇
Topic: F3F賽
Date: 09 Feb 2004
Time: 01:18:03

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今早上馬鞍山再試隻 Sting ，因為上次?石澳降落時損佐小小，要修補，上個禮拜塔門又無風，試唔到。今早雖然Ｄ風偏北，但隻機飛起上?，速度有番咁上下，無得彈，15-02-04 F3F 首選馬鞍啦，皆因果度大家都可以上落平安呀嗎！

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 天氣﹐F3F
Date: 08 Feb 2004
Time: 20:22:40

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天文台個兩部超級電腦果然有料到﹐六日前已經預測到今朝天氣會突然全面轉晴﹐唔遲唔早﹐犀利﹗最新報告係星期日會吹 4 到 5 級東風。呢風咁勁傘佬多數唔會出現﹐所以石澳同馬鞍山都可以考慮。係同一風速下﹐我個人既經驗係石澳既升力會稍勝馬鞍山。但星期日預測係吹東風而石澳最好既風向係東北偏東 (60度)﹐石澳未必有著數﹐所以我都唔知點揀﹐其他師兄點睇 ?

Name: Stanley
Topic: 天氣預告
Date: 08 Feb 2004
Time: 19:54:11

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天文台的預測真係好準！話咗今日陽光普照就真係陽光普照，睇落2月15日既天氣預告吹3級東至東北風我們的F3F比賽都可順利進行。至於比賽地點我唸都是最好在馬鞍山，因吹3級風的話石澳應有很多滑翔傘，搞比賽就很困難而且可能與傘佬產生衝突，各位意下如可？

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: F3F賽
Date: 08 Feb 2004
Time: 07:01:04

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啊邦!我都咁老情人節重會興祝?有比賽的話什麼節日我都會忘記既!啱啱搞掂隻大蕉，下個星期既比賽一定要向肥輝隻NYX F3F挑戰吓。啊堅唔使咁唔開心，啲Sting未到焉知非福，可能搵隻MiniNYX比賽就夠殺食。啊Y.C.屋企太凍不如就做吓運動，練吓Discus Launch既手勢，話唔定下次三月既HLG比賽可發輝最大既潛能。

Name: 亞蘇
Topic: 無情的天
Date: 08 Feb 2004
Time: 05:36:18

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今天F3F搞唔成，為有遊車河解悶，下午上到大帽山，度到得個８度好鬼凍，個天又不停落雨，真?命，仲有Ｄ雲會突然吹過?，霧裡看大帽山，?都睇唔見，白芒芒一片，Ｄ北風仲勁連把傘都吹反，留?十五分鐘，突然雲霧被大風吹散，一片雲海沉於足下，嘩好鬼壯觀呀，無機放?Ｄ悶氣一掃而空。

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 燙斗當暖爐 ?
Date: 08 Feb 2004
Time: 04:03:05

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Willy, 其實我屋企所有識發熱既野我都唸過架啦﹐我甚至唸過可唔可以搬壇野入廚房整﹐開石油氣爐取煖﹐但廚房太細﹐行唔通。我自己唔燙衫﹐淨係燙膠﹐我個燙斗係火數極度 un 豬既旅行燙斗﹐攬著黎訓都無也感覺﹐暖下張凳就或者得。依家只可以希望天文台個兩部超級電腦既預測準﹐聽日就開始回暖啦。如果唔係就真係悶到發瘟啦。

Name: Yeung
Topic: 無情的天
Date: 08 Feb 2004
Time: 02:31:58

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I put the epoxy in a water bath to get a workable viscosity and it works quite well today. It seems to be better than working with a hair dryer. Ha, some big progress on my new project today.

Name: 堅
Topic: 無情的天
Date: 08 Feb 2004
Time: 01:47:14

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又凍!想砌機,D EPOXY 又難乾,暖爐又無貨,用炭爐烘,又怕中一氧化炭,又落雨,放機又唔得,敖機又唔得, 簡直趕盡殺絕!連D STING 又遲遲未到,埃!真想死!

Name: Willy
Topic: Heater
Date: 08 Feb 2004
Time: 00:54:40

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聽聞早於過年前後的那個寒流襲港期間，全港暖爐巳被搶購一空。因為過年後天氣回暖的關係，代理亦據聞不會再入貨。YC，你不如用熨斗當作 radiator 頂住啦，細房應得。

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 邊度有暖爐賣﹖
Date: 07 Feb 2004
Time: 21:32:42

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我個人一向頂得凍﹐但過去一星期實在太離譜﹐係屋企成個人進入半冬眠狀態﹐也都唔想做。D 5分鐘 Epoxy 全部變晒 15分鐘﹐jit D Epoxy 出黎個陣重要等D膠慢慢咁流到樽口,等到恰眼訓﹐所以也機都無整。今日去電器舖想買個暖爐﹐點知已經俾人掃晒﹐有無人知邊度仲有貨 ?

Name: S
Topic: A ques
Date: 07 Feb 2004
Time: 20:32:04

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A sunday such as today, what can we do?

Name: Ah Pong
Topic: F3F race
Date: 07 Feb 2004
Time: 17:38:03

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May I suggest to hold the race on coming Saturday?? Since Saturday is Valentine's day, a lot of fellow soarers would unable to come (such as Stanley......), and I shall have a better chance to win. he..he... (just a joke)

Name: danny
Topic: Finished
Date: 07 Feb 2004
Time: 09:43:08

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Thanks Novice, after 12 hours or so, i finally finished my first ele. bee. the only prob is the CG is at round 9' instead of 7', i think i should put 10 5 dollars coins in the front. but another thing is afraiding it will be too heavy. other than that. looking forward to my first flight, hope i wont lose it like last time. happy landing

Name: 亞蘇
Topic: F3F 15-02-04 我O.K
Date: 07 Feb 2004
Time: 08:37:50

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如果?定?十五?，地?馬鞍山，我 O.K。

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: F3F改期
Date: 07 Feb 2004
Time: 08:00:51

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不如決定改期到下個星期日2月15日。天氣預告當日是天晴，吹東北風。如果各位機友對這日期有問題，請盡早提出。

Name: 亞蘇
Topic: F3F 改唔改期 (都要改啦！)
Date: 07 Feb 2004
Time: 07:52:42

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喂！各位如果?定改期，改至何日？諗諗佢好?，等我請定假。

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 燒 servo﹐天文台
Date: 07 Feb 2004
Time: 05:53:54

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Stanley 隻 servo 燒完之後﹕http://www.yclui.rchomepage.com/Hitec_wing_servo_burnt/Hitec_wing_servo_burnt.htm . 阿 Kong, 你可以俾埋你隻燒左既 Hitec 125MG 我﹐等我一齊寄過美國 Hitec 廠﹐或者可以免費換番隻新 servo (不過都係試下﹐唔敢包)。今日去天文台都算大開眼界﹐我正先仲以為香港無 wave 上昇氣流﹐原來係有﹐不過用唔用到黎飛我地D滑翔機就未知。天文台既科學主任仲介紹左一種由海風撞陸地風所產生既上升氣流﹐仲話我地係深涌個次遇到既可能係呢種氣流。天文台原來有好多氣象站既數據係無擺上網﹐其中一個就係正飛鵝山頂﹐各師兄去飛前不妨打電話去天文台問下。

Name: Willy
Topic: 賠償
Date: 07 Feb 2004
Time: 03:00:27

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無論寄郵局、速遞，寄時都可另買保險，以保障寄失、毀爛，是嗎？

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: 覆阿麥
Date: 07 Feb 2004
Time: 01:54:54

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阿麥,對於賠償,真係唔好抱咁大祈望,我都係想睇佢點解釋,希望佢有D道義,否則去rcgroup 度嘈下算。我昨天已補番一隻翼尖,另一隻只裂了的唔補都得(都係補好D. . .)。. . . . . . . DS161 是用5125MG 的 mechanic,但 electronic 就完全不同,剛剛試了手上的DS161 及 5125MG,DS161 的虛位的確比 5125MG 小很很多,有load情況下,DS161即使偏移很很小摩打就已出力修正,5125MG就 . . . 看來JR的control技術的確比Hitec高一皮。

Name: 堅
Topic: 好去處
Date: 07 Feb 2004
Time: 01:02:46

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改期LA! 等 D STING 番到來,多D人?予,仲好LA! 有個好地方"西沙茶座"食飯,有VDV,BBQ,大TV,無限CAR PARK, 仲可以MEETING!最好仲有SUPER DISCOUNT !點解?因為佢係我 學生.已后放完機多D落去LA!

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: F3F 改唔改期 (都要改啦！)
Date: 06 Feb 2004
Time: 23:28:11

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我睇個F3F賽都係改期好D，天文台話聽日密雲有雨！ Hitec D servo 真係唔好。我自已用過幾隻，D 噓位大到無輪。今次同 CM 一人買左一隻 Spider-X，隻机未到手已經爛左，重等著CM去追賠償、都唔知追唔追到。最慘我重同時又要左幾隻 Hitec HS-125 servo, 貪佢較薄身。死啦，D Hitec wing servo 咁易燒，第日裝机都唔知用唔用佢地好！ CM, 你講D JR-161 有無噓位架，貴唔貴用呀？

Name: Chester
Topic: F3F 改唔改期
Date: 06 Feb 2004
Time: 16:59:20

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我諗都要改期,無謂又要補機,不如坐低king下個DLG project 好過啦.

Name: 亞蘇
Topic: F3F 改唔改期
Date: 06 Feb 2004
Time: 08:36:16

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我就話改期好Ｄ！北風位??好似無一個可以作賽。

Name: Novice
Topic: Building Electric Bee
Date: 06 Feb 2004
Time: 06:54:15

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Danny You can visit http://www.yourzagi.com/ Good luck!

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 燒Servo
Date: 06 Feb 2004
Time: 06:37:49

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無問題﹗你不如俾隻死 servo 我﹐等我影相登上網睇下仲有無其他人係咁﹐因為我都有D擔心我裝左落機個8隻 servo 會唔會飛飛下突然暴斃。 跟?我會試下寄隻死 servo 俾美國 Hitec,睇下佢地係唔係網上傳到咁好 service﹐寄個新既俾我。如果其他人都有瓜左既 Hitec 125MG 或 5125MG﹐可以俾我一齊寄埋。

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: 燒Servo
Date: 06 Feb 2004
Time: 06:15:00

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啱啱拆出隻燒咗既Hitec HS-5125 servo 睇睇，發覺裏面兩粒既MOS FETs燒爛咗，個摩打仔扭都扭唔到，好似凝死咁！裏面的線圈一定燒到七彩。唉！咁既設計無Protection circuit，真屎！可不可以告Hitec賠償損失！Y.C.可不可以攘賣一隻HS-5125給我先，明天如到天文台，請帶隻Servo來，謝謝！

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: F3F 改唔改期
Date: 06 Feb 2004
Time: 03:26:17

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依家睇怕唔改都唔得﹐但天文台話下星期尾又係吹北風﹐所以都唔好抱太大期望。燒 Hitec servo Stanley 都唔係第一個,阿 Kong 都領過野﹐佢用隻 Hitec 5125MG 薄 servo 係隻EPP度﹐無啦啦燒左﹐個 servo 殼仲溶開個窿﹗幾得人驚。我就比較好彩﹐有8隻用係 Shooting Star, Pike 同 Elita 度﹐暫時無事。Stanley 你不如索性訂 Volz Wing Maxx 啦﹐我仲有幾隻 Hitec 薄 servo 係手﹐你可以用著先。

Name: danny
Topic: electric bee building instruction
Date: 06 Feb 2004
Time: 03:18:40

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Hello, i just wonder if anyone know any website that shows instruction for building an ele. bee in detail? i have no concept how to make it with the maunel from the box becoz i am a beginner. thank you in advance

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: Hitec servo
Date: 06 Feb 2004
Time: 03:13:20

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Hitec 真係咁屎?都係裝番JR既DS161落aileron安全D,唔知大家對Hitec servo 有乜意見?我自己就麻麻,記得以前做學校project,裝個Hitec servo 入個robot,在某些loading 下,個servo 竟然來回大幅擺動,即係佢套control unstable,曄,如果係飛機發生,架機咪做埋培葬品?

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: F3F 改唔改期？
Date: 06 Feb 2004
Time: 02:58:04

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似乎天公唔聽我哋話，不如８號星期日的F3F賽改期順廷一個星期。一來大家多啲時間準備。我隻大蕉(Trinity)昨晚本來已經整好，當set隻機時一隻用在Flap上既Hitec digital servo竟然不勝負荷燒到出煙！唉！Hitec啲野真屎，我以後都唔會再用。由於大蕉隻翼實在太薄，無計暫時只有Hitec既ultra slim servo放得落，所以都要等訂過隻servo才有得出賽。你地覺得F3F賽順廷到下星期日2月18日如何？

Name: Yeung
Topic: 改節目(2月8日)
Date: 06 Feb 2004
Time: 02:05:49

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係石澳打邊爐,做D thermal 比 Chester 隻 DLG la.!!

Name: 堅
Topic: 改節目(2月8日)
Date: 06 Feb 2004
Time: 01:34:00

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寒冷,潮濕,辛苦,改打邊爐la!

Name: 堅
Topic: Augus
Date: 06 Feb 2004
Time: 00:36:22

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有福la 你,拾到?la!

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 爛機有得賠﹖
Date: 06 Feb 2004
Time: 00:25:14

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阿堅﹐點同佢講數﹖可唔可以講下你經歷過既實際個案同點賠法 ? 我地D散客最後個招都睇怕係在網上投訴佢﹐但係 TUN 呢類 vendor 似乎係做非英語區既生意多(佢地既網頁只有德文版﹐寄俾我既 email news letter 又係全德文﹐都唔知佢講也)。係英文論壇上唱佢地可能無也用﹐只可以希望對方係講理既人﹐否則就只有死死地氣自己補番隻機。

Name: 堅
Topic: 訂機
Date: 05 Feb 2004
Time: 23:58:07

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每次ORDER之後我都會REMIND佢,用D好D大D紙盒寄貨,之後無事了. 收貨時CHECK清楚包裝有無摺痕,"有"千祈唔好開盒!同佢講數! 唔好衝動!有得賠嫁!

Name: Angus
Topic: 新買就要補﹖
Date: 05 Feb 2004
Time: 08:24:01

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我買隻Mini Graphite時,烏克蘭佬居然用木釘個盒。當時我重話郵費貴,現在想落原來用木盒都幾好。

Name: Danny
Topic: hope we have better weather this weekend
Date: 05 Feb 2004
Time: 04:17:51

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firstly, would want to thanks Ken and his sons and ar Wa for teaching me from scratch, i have been learning a lot from them. and i am planning to get my brother to get into this hobby too. we bought a sparrow and a bee, cant wait to test fly it during the weekend. Its great to know that everyone is so funny and nice over the slope, flying really makes a good hobby and friends. Over the slopes , nothing seems to be matter. At first, when u just got there and look at the planes flying, you will instantly forget everything in your mind, then after you start flying, no matter whether the car got stuck on the road, no matter the plane got stuck on the tree, or whether you are going down to help your fellow to find the plane. They all seem to be so funny and relaxing, so it makes flying itself is just part of the fun, coz there are much more than that to come. haha. i feel great. see you guys soon on the slope happy landing dw

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 新買就要補﹖
Date: 05 Feb 2004
Time: 04:13:51

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原來上次 CM 隻 New Sting 飛左幾轉就變左爆口 Sting 唔算係也野﹐傷心過佢既大有人在。我都訂左隻 4m Duo Discus, 依家聽到阿堅咁講﹐即刻訓唔安﹐食唔落﹐隻機到個陣分分鐘唔敢開盒睇。。。。。

Name: 堅
Topic: 多!大!
Date: 05 Feb 2004
Time: 03:48:43

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訂機!要多,個盒子就大!就安全!

Name: 堅
Topic: 隔山買牛
Date: 05 Feb 2004
Time: 03:14:23

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CM兄: 我買左隻ASW 24 4m大,返到黎條腰裂左,已經將補機 成為習慣,所以完成機其實無意義.

Name: Willy
Topic: 若比賽當日，無雨，但吹北風
Date: 05 Feb 2004
Time: 02:06:03

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Cancel the race if the wind direction is northerly? 科大北位，都得吧。

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: 寄運過程壓爛隻機 - 點辦﹖
Date: 04 Feb 2004
Time: 23:12:45

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Now the plane is already charged up with "kenematic ugliness". It should last forever!

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 寄運過程壓爛隻機 - 點辦﹖
Date: 04 Feb 2004
Time: 22:38:20

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我都好想知。我比較好彩﹐咁耐都只係隻 Pike 運過黎個陣機身尾部裂左少少﹐原因係英國既郵包呎吋唔可以長過 1.5m﹐個dealer抬個盒到郵局至知﹐搞到佢要抬返舖頭﹐將個盒裁短10cm先至可以寄到。由於個盒只係緊緊擺得落隻機身﹐結果就搞成咁﹐由於損毀非常輕微﹐所以我無追究。以我所知﹐一般dealer寄野比買家都有買保險﹐除非用DHL或Fedex等速遞公司﹐郵局一般都係保寄失﹐唔保損毀﹐以阿堅同CM既情況﹐有也野可以做?

Name: Kin
Topic: One piece wing with free winglet
Date: 04 Feb 2004
Time: 21:15:40

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I order one F5B from czench , wingspan 1.8m ."No winglet " But !two free of charge winglets in each tip !what can I say? Just Thankyou !

Name: Kin
Topic: One piece wing with free winglet
Date: 04 Feb 2004
Time: 21:15:26

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I order one F5B from czench , wingspan 1.8m ."No winglet " But !two free of charge winglets in each tip !what can I say? Just Thankyou !

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: 無炭?
Date: 04 Feb 2004
Time: 09:03:09

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阿Kin, 遲到好過冇到,千其唔好燒炭! 我重慘,我同Tun訂左兩隻Spider X,諗住用來出戰28F3F,但唔知係唔係Tun個老細掛住放假滑雪,竟然是但用個軟林林既箱寄來,更離譜的是: 隻機長138cm,但個箱外呎吋只係得140cm! 結果就爛了兩個翼尖,另有一個機尾輕微破裂。已報了郵局,及把情況告知Tun,不過都要等Tun老細滑完雪返來至知佢點解釋。今次係我第一次跟Tun買機,未飛就要補,網上又唔似有對佢投訴,唔知各位師兄師傅有冇類似經驗分享? . . . . 有關隻Spider X,隻機得2.5m翼展,但機身長過Sting,卻又似miniNYX咁幼,Servo 要前後裝,對flap好巨形,Very interesting.

Name: Kin
Topic: Sorry !
Date: 04 Feb 2004
Time: 08:15:14

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襟錯字添!無炭刷好用呀Willy你用400 size +3.3-3.8牙比gearbox+30-40A ESC +8.4V 1200-1600 NiCd D 表現一流!好快!

Name: Kin
Topic: Sorry !
Date: 04 Feb 2004
Time: 08:15:13

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襟錯字添!無炭刷好用呀Willy你用400 size +3.3-3.8牙比gearbox+30-40A ESC +8.4V 1200-1600 NiCd D 表現一流!好快!

Name: Angus
Topic: F3F賽 - 邊度?
Date: 04 Feb 2004
Time: 07:49:22

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石澳東位條track 賽F3F最正,而馬鞍山亦唔錯。以近期D風都一般都偏北計,石澳應該較好。不過最重要是唔落雨。

Name: Kin
Topic: 無炭
Date: 04 Feb 2004
Time: 07:34:05

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Name: Kin
Topic: 無機
Date: 04 Feb 2004
Time: 07:21:38

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D機落order但又未到,無機賽好唔happy !

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: F3F賽 - 邊度﹖( 石澳啦！)
Date: 04 Feb 2004
Time: 04:00:52

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都係石澳机會大D。我上次在石澳用NewSting 極速掃落葉個北位，雖然條 track 冇東位今長同直，但係飛 F3F 就應該OK。個場D風又好升力。無論東或北風都有得飛。 不過D風今冷，不論技術高底、只要飛得完5圈、倆隻手指重聽指揮就 win 硬啦！

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: F3F賽 - 邊度﹖
Date: 03 Feb 2004
Time: 22:33:13

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天文臺呢排對天氣變化既預測都幾準確﹐但係時間就可能有出入。依家既期望係星期一既天氣(大致天晴﹐4級東北風)會提前係星期日發生。如果係既話石澳就好理想。如果天氣轉變再快D﹐風向就有可能偏東﹐馬鞍山就最正。石澳泊車既問題應該唔會太大﹐如果我地早D到﹐停車場應該可以霸到5個位(當中可能 1 - 2 架車要上膊,但唔會阻人﹐應該安全。離停車場約 110m 有兩個好似係非正式既避車處﹐我成日見人泊車係個度( 包括 Willy )﹐無見過D車有告票﹐個度泊4架車應該 OK﹐再遠D(約 1.1 km或一分鐘車程)近土地灣有個細停車場﹐可以泊 7 到 8 架車﹐部份人可以擺低D機後泊車係個度﹐然後搭其他人既它車返黎。今個星期六多數無得飛﹐我打算去天文台聽講座﹐提為“天氣與消閒飛行運動” http://www.hko.gov.hk/education/friends_hko/aviat_talk.htm 。 有無人有興趣 ?

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: F3F in Ma On Shan or Shek O?
Date: 03 Feb 2004
Time: 21:50:28

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The weather is still very unpredictable. At least the prediction on Sunday is rainy. I would suggest the following arrangement depending on the weather: Cancel the race if raining. Cancel the race if the wind direction is northerly. Hold the race in Shek O if the wind direction is northeasterly Hold the race in Ma On Shan if the wind direction is easterly Any other suggestion?

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 掟機獸
Date: 03 Feb 2004
Time: 20:45:07

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鬼佬叫呢班 DLG 高手做 "launch animals". Joe Wurts 係其中一個﹐http://www65.tok2.com/home2/r/movie/movie2/JoeWurts.WMV 佢用手接翼尖跟?順勢轉身 "fing"隻機出去個種功架真係出神入化。唔到你唔服。

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: Mini NYX or Shooting Star ?
Date: 03 Feb 2004
Time: 19:52:55

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In my experience, MiniNYX has a bit better overall performance than Shooting Star. Shooting Star tends to warble a bit after turn. In the same condition (wing loading, airspeed, etc), Shooting star tends to tip stall earlier than MiniNYX. The most noticeable different is on DSing, you can fly a very smooth DS circle using MiniNYX, Shooting star tends to warble and jumping up and down a bit along the DS path. MiniNYX seems to have a little bit better energy retention than Shooting Star also. I remember last time Master Leung, Wu So Keung and I performed stall turn swing together in Jat's Incline. Master Leung and I flew the MiniNYX while Wu So Keung flew the Shooting Star, apparantly MiniNYX can swing up a bit higher than Shooting Star, but, of course, it depends on many other factors. On the down side, MiniNYX is a bit more expensive than Shooting Star if you care about the extra cost, Shooting Star is still a good choice. Cheers

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 回 Kevin Lam : Mini NYX or Shooting Star ?
Date: 03 Feb 2004
Time: 18:51:27

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Mini NYX 同 Shooting Star 係同類機種兼同廠產品。兩隻機既性能都非常好﹐強風下都好難搵到第D機快過佢地。雖然呢兩隻機既全備重量都有成 700g﹐但係微風性能就出奇咁好。上星期日係塔門無風﹐我地比過Mini NYX 同 Mini Corado 既留空時間﹐雖然Mini Corado 係輕 200g 既微風機﹐但竟然唔係贏 Mini NYX 好多.我個人比較鍾意 Mini NYX, 因為佢比較靚仔﹐機身入面又多D空間﹐裝 servo 會易好多。

Name: Willy
Topic: 摩打
Date: 03 Feb 2004
Time: 01:25:59

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Multiplex ASK18，1.5 米，Robbe Speed 400 加原裝波箱（齒比忘了），6-7 cell，Sanyo Ni-Cd 紅色「矮」電池（1000ma 以下），Robbe 電變（最高10 cell）。由於是 scale 機原故，較重及阻風，所以不能與《深涌》的相提並論。有關 planatery gearbox，我原本那個條 shaft 有點撞歪了，要買過，現成的，請問有無鋪頭、型號介紹？

Name: Yeung
Topic: 問 Willy : 電機摩打
Date: 03 Feb 2004
Time: 01:00:31

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Hi Willy, I suppose you would like to use your existing equipment for conventional brushed motor. A popular planetary gearbox cost around HK$200. If your plane is originally equipped with S400 motor direct drive system, you can upgrade it with a planetary gearbox, 7~8 cell 600mah Nicad or 900 mah Nimh, or similar. However if your plane has already got 540 series motor, it is very likely that can accomodate larger 1300~1700 or even 2400 mah 7~8 cells. A similar planetary gearbox for 540 series will help. In both case, you may need larger spinner and propeller set. Wow, more power, more flying time and will be another carrier (like Ken's), more fun!!

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 問 Willy : 電機摩打
Date: 02 Feb 2004
Time: 22:30:04

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阿楊用黎參加電機比賽個隻機都係大約 1.5m翼展﹐ 佢都係用400/380摩打+行星齒輪箱﹐7舊電﹐隻機爬升好勁﹐同無炭擦摩打無也分別。你可否講下你隻機用幾多舊電﹐電池形號﹐電變可承受既最大電流﹐齒輪箱既齒輪比同埋隻螺旋槳既 size﹐ 我相信一定有人會幫到你。

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: 風向 - F3F
Date: 02 Feb 2004
Time: 22:28:46

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I like Shek O too. The only problem is that there is not enough parking space.

Name: Chester
Topic: 風向 - F3F
Date: 02 Feb 2004
Time: 17:00:48

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I agree to change the location to Shek O if the wind is slightly east. Or I have to bring the homebrew DLG to throw again : )

Name: Kevin Lam
Topic: Mini NYX or shooting star?
Date: 02 Feb 2004
Time: 08:05:17

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Could anyone tell the differences between these two 60" molded planes in terms of their performance in varity conditions? I am wondering which one I should go with....or please give me advice if there is other option to be considered. Thank you!

Name: Willy
Topic: 電機摩打
Date: 02 Feb 2004
Time: 07:47:36

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我有架 Multiplex ASK18，1.5m，多年前巳改電，Robbe Speed 400 配 planetary 波箱，性能頂多是在無風的山坡 self sustaining，不能在平地 self launching。請問有乜摩打、波箱介紹，以改善性能？及價錢？我想繼續用普通的電變。

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: To Ah Pong - Camping at Ping Fung Shan
Date: 02 Feb 2004
Time: 07:34:56

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Sure! you bring wine and I will bring cheese.

Name: Ah Pong
Topic: F3F on 08-02-2004
Date: 02 Feb 2004
Time: 07:04:52

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Hey YC, you are so optimistic for the wind direction on Sunday. However, in accordance with the Observatory Station, northerly wind would blow over the territory. I have thought about to organize a camping for all fellow soarers in order to fly at Pang Fung Shan. What do you think? However, it may rain on Sunday (again, observatory says!). Ah Mak, my own restriction is not over yet, but my BAT will..............................win, he he!!

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 風向
Date: 02 Feb 2004
Time: 05:08:04

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上星期日我出門前睇過天文臺既風向圖﹐當時基本上係吹東南西北風﹐D風弱兼且唔穩定。原本隔晚同隻 Shooting Star 差定電唸著帶去塔門﹐都即刻改變計劃帶隻微風機 Mini Corado去。今個星期冬季季候風又會再黎﹐天文臺預測星期日會吹5到6級北風﹐如果係真既話﹐F3F賽睇怕都要改期﹐但如果風向有D偏東﹐石澳就應該好掂﹐咁既風速D傘佬一定唔會蒲頭﹐我地創記錄就係時候。

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: To Ah Pong - paraglider course
Date: 02 Feb 2004
Time: 03:46:37

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Sure ! YC and I will fly the F3F race on the coming Sunday. Are you released from your own restritions on flying mouldies yet ? Come and join the race !

Name: Willy
Topic: 塔門，2004年2月1日之旅
Date: 02 Feb 2004
Time: 01:14:11

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奇怪，《塔門》風弱到連紙鳶都不能滯空，《橫欄島》則同一時間報東北風，還有十幾公里/小時，《石澳》應飛到。

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: To Ah Pong - paraglider course
Date: 02 Feb 2004
Time: 00:44:04

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Sure ! no problem for me.

Name: Ah Pong
Topic: paraguilder course
Date: 01 Feb 2004
Time: 22:47:21

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Since the SARS and the Avian Influenza are widely spread in our adjacent provinces, Pauline and I do not think it is a wise decision to go to Wai Chow for the paraguilder course on coming weekend. We may extend the insurance when we are ready by paying extra money. What are the views of you guys? Regards.

Name: Ken
Topic: 吊機
Date: 01 Feb 2004
Time: 10:16:28

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今天清水灣沒有風,無得飛。我們嘗試用電機帶三角板升空，過程很順利亦很緊張。我們只用魔術貼作扣件，將兩機重心扣在一起，很簡單但很有效。脫?時電機要微向下加速然後抽頭向上，下面之三角板則向下推。飛機帶?三角板升空時很壯觀，飛行姿態很美。數次順利升空後，我們便帶試一隻ASW24上天，過程十分驚險。由於24較重,魔術貼有可能不夠力吊起，固此我們改用背機方式，將24放在電機頂部，但效果並不理想。一次好像墮馬似的脫?，另一次脫𣎴了?要背?24一起降落。賽後檢討時己找出原因。下次一定會改善。日後山下風太微弱時，大家又多一種玩法。

Name: Ken
Topic: To Ah Pong
Date: 31 Jan 2004
Time: 06:54:22

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Ah Pong, Rememebr to send the name to my e-mail: ken@rcsail.com Thanks- Ken

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 今日馬鞍山
Date: 31 Jan 2004
Time: 06:30:36

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今日馬鞍山都幾多人去﹐有Stanley, 阿麥﹐Angus, Willy, 占士﹐同另外兩位朋友。D風好到暈﹐ Willy 用風速表度到接近 50 km/hr 既風速﹐雖然市區已經回暖﹐但個度仍然凍到震﹐ Willy著唔夠衫﹐ 飛左一陣就頂唔順。我同其他人就繼續頂。我地度過幾隻機走F3F track 既時間﹐大約係54秒﹐如果升力再好D(譬如係石澳)﹐做到四十幾秒應該唔係問題. Angus 帶左枝雷達測速槍黎﹐度到我隻 Pike 走 track 時既最高速度係 121 km/hr. 最好風個陣﹐走F3F track 有D似飛DS﹐隻機好似越飛越快﹐非常刺激﹐不過只要一個彎做得唔好﹐隻機就會馬上好似食左豬油咁﹐要從新加速。飛F3F要快真係唔容易。希望下個禮拜D風好似今日咁靚﹐等各機友可以有機會發揮下。

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: 馬鞍山
Date: 30 Jan 2004
Time: 10:21:42

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我今晚加班，用 YC 教既方法整番左隻机翼嗰3個窿，不過手工未到家、唔係吟平滑！又唔知聽日 D epoxy 乾未。 如果隻机飛得，我都想去馬鞍山 set 机同做 D 實習。

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 馬鞍山
Date: 30 Jan 2004
Time: 08:29:06

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天文臺最新發放既風向圖上D箭嘴全部指晒東﹐風速仲幾高。如果聽日仲係咁既話我會去馬鞍山。但如果風向偏北﹐我就會去石澳。我聽日要送隻 Sting 俾準買家睇﹐應該大約12點到。

Name: Angus
Topic: 馬鞍山
Date: 30 Jan 2004
Time: 07:36:39

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明天有沒有人去馬鞍山?幾點鐘?

Name: Ah Pong
Topic: 去惠洲
Date: 30 Jan 2004
Time: 07:06:36

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I am so sorry that the trip could not be arranged. since Pauline (my be loved wife has to work,long week ma!) as well as I have to standby in HK for some operqational matters, I could only fly at FNS. I shall arrage with the club in Wai Chow for our maden flight next week! See you guys at FNS then.

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 去惠洲？
Date: 30 Jan 2004
Time: 04:24:45

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聽日勁東風﹐本來打算去馬鞍山做F3F最後備戰﹐不過如果惠州飛到我就同你地上惠州。

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: 去惠洲？
Date: 30 Jan 2004
Time: 04:04:00

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Ah Pong, YC, 明天惠洲次東南2級風，可唔可以安排到上惠洲飛？

Name: Willy
Topic: 星期日，2月1日《塔門》之旅
Date: 30 Jan 2004
Time: 00:18:59

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天文台預告，東南風2-3級。咁微風，分分鐘要靠 bungee，或飛電機。

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: V V Model 新機 Viking
Date: 29 Jan 2004
Time: 23:56:15

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http://www.rs-hobbyimport.no/1_modeller/-vv_model/viking/viking.htm 係 F3B/F3F 機﹐ 同 New Sting 一樣﹐只有炭纖版﹐價錢仲差唔多。

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 日本滑翔機網頁
Date: 29 Jan 2004
Time: 00:02:39

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呢個網頁都幾多野睇。http://kanoh.web.infoseek.co.jp/index.html 入面講到DLG既掟法及翼尖個枝棍仔既位置對掟機既影響﹐幾有趣﹐值得睇下。

Name: Paul Tai
Topic: 補機 Master
Date: 28 Jan 2004
Time: 21:30:08

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Just a note to say the 補機 skills are so wonderful and second to none. Billions thanks for sharing all these with all r/c glider fans.

Name: Stanley
Topic: 補機
Date: 27 Jan 2004
Time: 08:28:06

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Y.C. 你啲補機技術真是無得頂！我隻Miraj被你整完可再戰江湖要多謝你這個大恩公。小弟一定要請你食番餐以表報搭之恩！

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 回阿麥- 補機
Date: 27 Jan 2004
Time: 05:55:47

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我尋日繼續補 Stanley 擺低左好耐既 Miraj﹐呢度有D相﹐你可以睇下有無用﹕ http://yclui.rchomepage.com/repair_moldy_1/repair_moldy_1.htm . 我隻 Pike 補過之後飛起上黎唔覺有也問題。我隻 Shooting Star 既主翼前緣有三份二補過﹐做 Loop 同 DS 都會走埋一邊﹐後來發覺係因為兩邊翼既重量唔平衡﹐用鉛定番就無事。

Name: 亞蘇
Topic: 星期日，2月1日《塔門》之旅，《北潭涌》之泊車
Date: 27 Jan 2004
Time: 03:36:25

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到時各位同仁可以早Ｄ到北潭涌停車場泊低架車，是會有位架，我就會早小小入北潭涌！ 到時見啦！

Name: Willy
Topic: 星期日，2月1日《塔門》之旅，《北潭涌》之泊車
Date: 26 Jan 2004
Time: 23:02:21

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依我經驗，在星期日，未到晨早8時，《北潭涌》車位就巳爆滿，請各駕車人士留意。向隅者，可退往《斬竹灣公眾停車場》，再搭94或96R號巴士直入《黃石碼頭》。.......................................................................................................................................................... Stanley，今次會否再在《塔門》訂「海鮮餐」？

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: 請教 YC 既快速補机技術
Date: 26 Jan 2004
Time: 08:36:06

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今日去左大清為隻 mini-nyx 做賽前 setting，打算用泥出賽F3F。 點知 land 左係棵高草上面、然後尾下頭上溜番落地！ 修尾又要整！ 反正都係要整机，就整蕃隻 NewSting 好過。 YC, 我見你隻 Pike WR 都係撻幾張 CF 布係面，想請教下點樣令D布唔呸口！我平時剪 CF 布既時候，D邊位都好容易起毛。 另外、用哩個方法補机應該會對翼形有D影響。你隻机整左之後、同未補之前，覺唔覺有幾多轉變呢？

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: 舊 New Sting 換新 Sting
Date: 25 Jan 2004
Time: 07:18:26

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嘩！Y.C.依家啲歐羅升到七彩，你原價賈隻新Sting一定有人搶著要，我都想要啊！今日係石澳試我隻爛舊Sting總是覺得唔夠快！如果係新機肯定唔同表現。睇落C.M.隻Brisk III越行越快，你隻Pike表現也很出色，今次二月八號既比賽如果好風，睇落有餐龍爭虎鬥。啊麥快啲整番好隻New Sting大展神威。

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: 舊 Sting 換新 Sting
Date: 25 Jan 2004
Time: 05:01:53

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嘩！ 發達囉！ 我以為得"亞拉丁"神話先有D "舊燈換新燈"咁正既野。 原來現今世界都有"舊Sting換新Sting"嘅offer ！ YC, 我有隻新鮮撞到七彩嘅舊"NewSting"，可以同你交換隻"全新舊款Sting" 大家都Happy啦！ 哈哈！！ 有時發吓白日夢都幾開心！！

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 舊 Sting 換新 Sting
Date: 25 Jan 2004
Time: 03:41:23

Message

俾阿麥同CM講到心郁郁﹐好想試下隻 New Sting 或 VV 既新機 Viking, 不過首先要籌集資金。 我手頭上有一隻完全未砌既 Sting (2.8m F3F版)﹐黃面藍底紅翼尖﹐炭纖center panel, 其餘係玻璃纖維。價 HK$5200. 有無人有興趣 ?

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: 今日石澳飛成點呀！
Date: 25 Jan 2004
Time: 03:37:47

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YC話今日上石澳飛，仲有邊個去咗石澳呀！ D風好唔好 ？ 我就慘啦、要係屋棋等客人來拜年。為有整吓机啦！ 聽日我就請多咗一日假，天文台話係東至東北 4級風，準備再上去石澳飛幾轉。有冇其他人想去呀？ 如果得我一丁友、就唔上石澳，近近地飛大清算啦！

Name: Danny
Topic: 新年放機
Date: 24 Jan 2004
Time: 22:26:35

Message

睇到大家新正頭都上山放機, 真係又羨慕又妒忌. 家陣紅字假期小第都重係柯彿史做野, 無法, 打工仔為兩餐. 希望今年人人有工開, 出糧出雙份, 做野UN-UN腳, 放機好開心.

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: paragliding date
Date: 24 Jan 2004
Time: 20:26:28

Message

Ah Pong, I mean 31Jan to 1Feb. That's earlier than 8th Feb. If we can't make it within one month, can we extend our insurance for the course!

Name: Ah pong
Topic: 08 Feb 2004
Date: 24 Jan 2004
Time: 19:47:36

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Can't make it, as our insurance would expire by then.

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: activity on 8th Feb.
Date: 24 Jan 2004
Time: 18:44:36

Message

Ah Pong, Can you arrange the training to next Sat and Sunday ?

Name: Ah Pong
Topic: activity on 08 Feb
Date: 24 Jan 2004
Time: 17:57:30

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I do not realize that there will have a F3F race on 08 Feb, when and where? Will it be an official one or otherwise? Hey, Mak and YC, the tentive day for our paraguilding couse would be on 7 and 8 Feb (not yet confirmed). Please make arrangement.Regards.

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: 年初三 NewSting 極速掃落葉 - 目擊証人話:
Date: 24 Jan 2004
Time: 09:37:30

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古語有云: 死有輕於鴻毛,重於泰山。阿麥,你都唔駛咁傷心,隻 New Sting 炒得咁轟烈,乜都抵番,撻番塊纖維(要大碼)又係一條好漢,真叫人羡慕. . . . .不過講真,阿麥真係好快,睇佢飛就好似睇緊VR98餅帶,唔知各位師傅 D Trinity, NYX F3F, Blade 等能否出戰2月8日的F3F? 係就正,一定有番龍爭虎鬥!

Name: TonyTse
Topic: ?失滑翔機
Date: 24 Jan 2004
Time: 05:50:21

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今天在大埔三門仔入面的鹽田仔北面山坡飛失ShunDa電動滑翔機一部. 如有拾獲,請email:tsehungfong@hkbn.net 雖已很殘但仍可以飛. 或者我可送上發射機.

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: 年初三 NetSting 極速掃落葉
Date: 24 Jan 2004
Time: 05:40:54

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今日大年初三又再出動，去咗石澳。放底老波婆同D細路喺石澳正灘玩沙，自己就帶咗隻"NewSting"上龍蹐放机。 上次聽幾位師兄講，落咗少少 speedflap喺隻"NewSting"、加上今日D風好大，隻机未落鉛都己經快到不得了！ CM問我點解隻手指咁震？我話係風太冷。其實係隻机快到我驚、由個心震到出隻手指！ 後尾D風轉咗北，我哋就過咗北位飛。D風又大咗，所以落滿 22 粒鉛入個鉛倉。 嘩！重加犀利。 隻机飛 F3F track、飛到 V V 聲，D 行山人又叫到嘩嘩聲。 CM 話可能會嚇親D行人，所以就轉為在北位山坡以 45度角打大圈。好似平時咁玩草上飛。 當時飛到得意忘形，又低估咗 22 粒子彈嘅慣性力量。最後一圈、隻机飛到圈底時， 在草面以極速掃中比草坡高少少嘅樹尖。隻机同大自然接觸嗰一刻，枝葉飛散，情景極𤔡慘烈！ 隻机同時喺水平方向轉身 360度，再自動完成一個可得100分的 soft landing！ 結果係主翼多咗 3 個大窿，幸好未傷到條橫樑。 雖然今日傷亡慘重，可以飛到呢D風、都算係值得。 不過二月份個 F3F 比賽，可能只好用架 mini-nyx 代替 new-sting 出賽喇。

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 今日大家去左邊﹖
Date: 24 Jan 2004
Time: 04:25:29

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我﹐Angus,Willy同佢幾個朋友去左科大﹐阿麥同CM去左石澳﹐我大約兩點鐘去過飛鵝山﹐東位同北位都無人﹐唔通今日係赤口所以D人唔出街 ? 聽日勁東北風﹐天晴﹐石澳最fit,有無人有興趣去﹖2月8日如果又係吹東北風﹐石澳既 lift 會好過馬鞍山好多﹐不如F3F賽就係個度搞﹐大家點睇 ?

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 回車手﹕學飛滑翔傘
Date: 23 Jan 2004
Time: 08:24:52

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其他收費有保險費及會費(加入大鵬俱樂部)﹐共二百多元人民幣。當然重有食宿費。我地係惠州住既酒店收180蚊人民幣一晚﹐質素都幾好。食就平都暈﹐15蚊一餐已經好豐富。飛天豬玩動力滑翔傘其實係唔合法﹐D傘佬多數係無風個陣用黎頂癮﹐仲要好低調﹐如果唔係就會俾民航處檢控。我個人比較起歡寧靜﹐飛滑翔傘都係希望體驗下D老鷹係空中翱翔﹐與大自然融為一體個種感覺。動力飛行對我既吸引力不大。

Name: 車手
Topic: 多謝你的回覆 y c lui,
Date: 23 Jan 2004
Time: 07:50:12

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再請教,全程學費是1500人仔,還有沒有其他的收費嗎? 你學完餘下的課程,就可以回香港大顯身手,真過癮. 我見飛天豬(朱幼倫)玩動力滑翔傘,仲過癮,將會有興趣玩嗎?

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 回車手﹕學飛滑翔傘
Date: 23 Jan 2004
Time: 07:04:41

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詳情可以與阿邦 edmond@rcsail.com 或大鵬滑翔傘俱樂部的匡教練(講普通話)聯絡 http://cn.gs/dpfly/ 。在內地學飛滑翔傘除需懂聽一點普通話外﹐學員毋需符合任何其他條件﹐手續亦非常間單﹐只需徼費填表便可。但如你打算日後在香港飛行的話﹐最好預先鍛煉一下體能﹐因為整套裝備包括傘翼﹐座帶﹐後備傘﹐頭盔﹐高度計﹐對講機等總重最小50磅﹐並非所有人都可以或願意背著這個重量步行上石澳或馬鞍山等飛行場。深圳有些飛行場是汽車可直達﹐惠州附近的羅浮山飛行場更有登山纜車﹐如不介意舟車勞頓的話﹐也許可以考慮。

Name: 車手
Topic: 請問 yc lui ,在惠州學滑翔傘的地點?
Date: 23 Jan 2004
Time: 05:26:39

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請教 y c lui, 學滑翔傘的地點在惠州那裏,需要什麼條件和手續?小弟好想去學. thx~~

Name: Willy
Topic: 《烏蛟騰》電機位？
Date: 22 Jan 2004
Time: 17:13:21

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距離《烏蛟騰公眾停車場》約5分鐘步行路程、介乎《烏蛟騰》與《九擔租》之間，有一大塊草地，四周環山，有樹蔭，與民居有一小山岡阻隔。我大年初一去過，我無電機，但覺應適合電機。有冇人試過？

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 年初一放機
Date: 22 Jan 2004
Time: 08:22:57

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今日我都偷左兩個鐘去石澳放機﹐呢風又係如常咁靚﹐隻 Pike 飛得都幾快﹐landing無問題。好機去﹐好機番﹐希望跟?成年都係咁。call過吳明﹐佢話年初三好多人會出黎放機﹐我都會趁下熱鬧。今日我試下行Willy介紹個條路﹐果然好行好多﹐遲D抬D 5米像真機上去飛一定要行呢條路。

Name: Willy
Topic: 年初三（星期六，2004年1月25日），科大
Date: 22 Jan 2004
Time: 05:25:21

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預告北風，5-6級，有人約我去。有興趣可齊來。

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: 恭喜恭喜
Date: 22 Jan 2004
Time: 01:31:46

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今日大年初一，吹東北風。頭先帶同成家人去咗大清遊車河(其實係放飛机至真！)。我志在有個彩頭、係新年第一日有机放。所以飛咗兩轉就立刻收隊走人，隻 mini-nyx landing 冇勿意外、都好滿意！ 我祝各位師兄，個人同D机都"上落平安"、"旅途愉快"。

Name: Billy
Topic: One sentence to end
Date: 21 Jan 2004
Time: 10:17:32

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Wish your best friend seem can successful

Name: Billy
Topic: 一句到尾
Date: 21 Jan 2004
Time: 10:10:54

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祝各位好友心想事成

Name: Robin
Topic: PSS
Date: 21 Jan 2004
Time: 08:29:29

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pedestrian safe soaring :?)

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: 新年萬事如意
Date: 21 Jan 2004
Time: 08:25:12

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我祝大家要機有機、要風得風、要飛就飛、要贏就贏、出機順利、飛行暢快、降落平安。總之萬事如意、安全至上、身體健康。

Name: Alexis
Topic: 大家拜個早年
Date: 21 Jan 2004
Time: 07:20:40

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祝大家 學業進步,恭喜發財,心想事成,招財進寶, 如意吉祥,新春大吉,東成西就,五福臨門, 一本萬利,身體健康,從心所欲,開工大吉, 笑口常開,年年有餘,萬事如意,花開富貴, 出入平安,龍馬精神,步步高陞,大吉大利!

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 新春大吉
Date: 21 Jan 2004
Time: 04:44:26

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祝願各位師兄有個風調雨順既猴年﹐飛多D﹐補少D﹐大家都 happy D.

Name: Chester
Topic: 恭喜發財
Date: 20 Jan 2004
Time: 23:47:39

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恭祝各位機友今年上落平安,發大財,買多D靚機飛. 恭喜恭喜.

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: Scale Glider
Date: 20 Jan 2004
Time: 09:08:16

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PSS = Powered Slope Soarers, Powered Slope Scale, Powered Scale Sailplanes, Powered Scale Soarers, Powered Slope Soaring . . . . These are all come out from the Yahoo Search. . . . But I like "Power Slope Something" :)

Name: Robin
Topic: scale gliders
Date: 20 Jan 2004
Time: 08:53:29

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What does PSS mean?, i forgot. Powered Slope something?

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: Scale glider contest
Date: 20 Jan 2004
Time: 08:51:24

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Ah, I read this before, thanks. In fact my question comes out from this article. As it stated "像真機需是比空氣重，可人員攜行之固定翼滑翔機的翻版", which implies only models of true gliders are allowed. That's why I asked about PSS.

Name: Ken
Topic: Scale glider contest
Date: 20 Jan 2004
Time: 08:37:30

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Some reference: http://www.geocities.com/tarcg/tech26.htm

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: Scale glider contest in May 2
Date: 20 Jan 2004
Time: 00:54:45

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Thanks Ken. I asked because it takes time to build a scale model. We will have many other contests in between. Very busy! So better prepare now :) . . . . . . My comment: if we can allow PSS to join, I think we can set up two groups. One for true gliders (e.g., ASW24) and one for PSS (unpowered model glider that models after its powered full size counterpart) . . . . . Since it is a scale glider contest, I don't think powered or electric models are allowed.

Name: Ken
Topic: Scale Plane Contest - Rules
Date: 19 Jan 2004
Time: 23:02:13

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CM, Details of the Contest has not been set up yet, we will discuss about that in our next meeting. We are open to any suggestions. I have an idea to count scores in 2 parts, Part I will count the outlook details, Part II will count the flying features of the same plane on some basic flight features, such as Roll, Loop, Inverse, Swing, Landing etc. I think we do not need to make any limitation on the planes, any plane or gliders, with or without power are both acceptable, But if the contest to be held at slope, we cannot accept Jet engine to prevent Fire. Please post any other suggestions onto this forum so we can discuss about that in our next meeting.

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: Scale Glider Contest - Rules
Date: 19 Jan 2004
Time: 06:34:51

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Hello, for the scale glider contest in May, is it restricted to true gliders? Can I use PSS?

Name: Chester
Topic: One Design Race
Date: 19 Jan 2004
Time: 00:23:16

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Dear race fellows, Any interest to One Design Race? May be we can have a club project to built the plane for this. Detail rule can be found in following link: http://home.alltel.net/mwsc/ODR_rules.htm

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 石澳
Date: 18 Jan 2004
Time: 18:57:04

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上去惠州飛唔到﹐好吊癮﹐尋日於是帶隻 Pike 上石澳飛番夠本。隻 Pike D setting 都執左幾次﹐覺得落 1mm speed flap 同 3mm snap flap 已經差唔多。 尋日石澳D風又正又勁又順﹐我反覆試驗不同既F3F轉彎法﹐發覺用rudder(阿偉教)真係可以有效減低轉彎時既能量消耗﹐elevator同rudder俾同放既時間對隻機出彎時既速度影響好大。有幾下我撞棍做o岩左﹐隻 Pike 既速度可以高到我從未見過咁快﹐如果係 Sting,速度肯定嚇死人。可惜飛左半個鐘就開始落雨﹐被迫走人。石澳個場真係正﹐依加我飛親都係大機﹐屋企D60吋機已經封晒塵。

Name: Angus
Topic: 石澳
Date: 18 Jan 2004
Time: 07:34:20

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星期六石澳D風好勁,雖然偏北,但無亂流,升力亦好,最適合set機。聽傘佬天文台話D風有30km/h。不過十分凍,好在聽Y C 講帶左對保暖手套,不知不覺飛?成個下午。下次吹東北或者東北偏北風,大家可以去石澳試一試。

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 學飛滑翔傘
Date: 18 Jan 2004
Time: 07:32:46

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前幾天我和阿麥﹐阿邦和他太太到惠州學飛滑翔傘。半年前阿麥和我曾經在香港學過一堂﹐但總覺得不太理想﹐除了因為學費頗高(約 HK$5000﹐視乎每堂飛行次數而定)之外﹐香港只有一個持牌教練﹐缺乏選擇。相比之下內地的條件較吸引﹐無論在學費(1500 人民幣)﹐教材﹐場地﹐教練質素以及課程的系統性均比香港優勝﹐唯一的問題是需要請假離港及懂聽普通話。 內地的課程一般為期四天﹐由星期三到星期六。如遇有特別情況如天氣不佳的話﹐上課時間可能需要延展至星期日。頭兩天主要是學習基本概念及在平地練習控傘。第三天上小山學習起飛及降落。到第四天便可上600m高的山峰嘗試真正飛行。 完成課程後﹐學員便可獲得國內A級滑翔傘飛行員資格﹐可以合法地在國內飛行。所學的技巧亦應足以應付考取香港Student Pilot資格﹐可在Club Pilot在場下在香港飛行。 由於上週末的風力太大﹐今次我們只能完成頭兩天的平地控傘訓練﹐待農曆新年過後﹐我們會再上惠州完成餘下課程。下次我打算帶一架3m F3F滑翔機一同前往﹐試試飛機在著名的羅浮山飛行場的表現會是如何。以下是我們學飛期間的一些照片﹕http://yclui.rchomepage.com/paraglider/hui_zhou_1/post.htm

Name: Robin
Topic: Anybody have a Stuntman?
Date: 15 Jan 2004
Time: 09:53:40

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Getting one next month from Tak Cheung 4 $850, anybody have a new or second hand one they'd like to sell (Danny maybe)? Or do you know a cheaper shop in HK.

Name: Tsz Ming
Topic: New "Easy" can DLG
Date: 15 Jan 2004
Time: 03:55:29

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YC Please see how am I DLG my new "Easy"! the link is: http://www.windrider.com.hk/image/image.cfm#2 Tsz Ming

Name: Tsz Ming
Topic: 掟隻 Bat is not easy
Date: 14 Jan 2004
Time: 08:28:18

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YC My Bat weight over 30 oz, the plane on the video should less than 14 oz I guess.That make the difference.

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 掟DLG
Date: 13 Jan 2004
Time: 10:48:34

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子明掟隻 BAT: www.rcsail.com/crazy_launch.mov 美國佬掟隻差唔多大細既飛翼﹕www.stocker.rchomepage.com/boomerlow.wmv 嘩﹗也爭咁遠架﹗肯定同 rudder offset 或者 用唔用gyro 無關啦﹗分別應該只係掟機既手勢﹗先排係沙螺洞我同CM都掟到投晒降﹐淨係阿麥掟得似D樣﹐你地估香港第一個人掟到美國佬既水準會係邊個丫拿?

Name: 亞蘇
Topic: 紙飛機
Date: 13 Jan 2004
Time: 07:09:23

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K.Y Mak 我贊成你的同 Y.C 的提議，仲有...我有一本係多年買日本書?，內容是一Ｄ ３Ｄ制做紙飛機，我盡快用掃描器，掃描後用 e-mial比你，可作為對外宣傳之用。

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 滑翔機DVD
Date: 13 Jan 2004
Time: 04:50:08

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我D滑翔機DVD係出面游左成年﹐依家至陸續返黎﹐但因為已經傳左N手﹐我都唔知道每一隻碟既確實下落﹐如果有師兄依家keep著以下既碟﹐ “Electric Airshow 2”, “Endless Lift 3”, “Pro Aerotow”, “Going the Distance”, 請與我聯絡。Tel:90204046, Email: yclui@netvigator.com. 謝謝。

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: paper planes
Date: 13 Jan 2004
Time: 00:21:13

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I don't know why my Chinese message didn't show-up correctly! Anyway, what I want to say is I support YC's suggestion on having a contest of free flight planes. It can be done in 2 sessions, one for wood planes, and one for paper planes. The contest can be duration or distance task. We can also make it a public event.

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: ºP‾È­¸¾÷¤jÁÉ
Date: 12 Jan 2004
Time: 20:13:23

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YC, §Ú¥¼¸Õ¹Lª± free flight Éó¡B¦Óª±¨ì¶}¤ß¹L¾Ö¦³¤@°¦·¥«~·Æµ¾¾÷ªº·Pı¡C ¤£¹L§Ú´N·¥¤ä«ù·d­Ó"¦Û¥Ñ­¸"­¸Éó‾dªÅ©Î¶ZÂ÷ÁÉ¡C ¥i¤À‾ȱi¤Î¤ì¤ù¨â²Õ¡Csize ­n¦³­­´w¡I ­øª¾¦³ÉN²{¦¨ªºÁɨҩO¡H ¤ñÁɦ¨¥\ªº¸Ü¡A§ó¥i¥H½Ð¨Ó¨ä¥L¹ÎÅé·d¤½¶}ÁÉ¡A¦P®É«Å¶Ç·Æµ¾¬¡°Ê¡C

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 回阿 Ken : 摺紙飛機大賽
Date: 12 Jan 2004
Time: 00:56:38

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值得認真唸下。滑翔機會以往搞既比賽傾向專門化﹐唯一較普及化既係EPP空戰﹐但有一定危險性。紙飛機有趣味性﹐又安全﹐大人同小朋友都可以參加﹐比賽之餘仲可以學下飛行既基本原理。應該會幾吸引。其實我自己對飛機既認識唔係由遙控模型而係由玩具反斗城賣既10吋"自由飛“飛機得番黎。呢種飛機用輕木片製成﹐結構非常簡單﹐隻翼只係平板一塊﹐無翼型﹐無弧度﹐但如果重心同尾翼傾角調較適當既話﹐一掟就可以飛好遠。透過試驗不同重心位置同尾翼傾角﹐我學到兩者同飛機穩定性既關係。後來我仲將D翼片調黎調去﹐成功將隻機改成無尾翼機同尾翼先端機﹐幾種布局都飛得好定。過程中我學到唔小野﹐真係開心過擁有一隻極品滑翔機。

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: ‾È­¸¾÷
Date: 11 Jan 2004
Time: 21:50:31

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Here's some (paper) scale model planes. http://www.3dpapermodel.com.tw/

Name: Chester
Topic: Slope Combat in Public Places - a good article to share
Date: 11 Jan 2004
Time: 19:29:24

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http://rc-sailplanes.dezzanet.com.au/articles/combat.asp

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: Paragliding course on 14-17/1/04
Date: 11 Jan 2004
Time: 17:23:51

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Hi Ah Pong, Please send the pre-course notes to mak@rcsail.com

Name: Ken
Topic: 紙飛機
Date: 11 Jan 2004
Time: 09:14:46

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我照YC介紹之網址造了一格紙機,飛起來的確比起一般的紙飛機穩定。原來紙飛機亦有這麼多學問,看來滑翔機會要考慮舉行一次手摺紙飛機大賽。地點可以是室內籃球場,大家有何意見。

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 紙飛機
Date: 11 Jan 2004
Time: 08:15:04

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滑翔機會既周年大會剛剛結束。同以往幾次唔同﹐今次特別多小朋友參加﹐阿蘇唸左個紙飛機定點降落賽﹐大人同細路一齊玩﹐一時間會場滿天都係紙飛機﹐好似變左清水灣﹐個個都玩得好開心。呢度有幾個同紙飛機製作有關既網頁﹐有興趣既朋友可以睇下。 http://www.aricraft.com/ http://www.stemnet.nf.ca/CITE/paper.htm http://www.zurqui.co.cr/crinfocus/paper/airplane.html 原來紙飛機都有留空時間記錄﹐跟據其中一個網頁講﹐現時既健力士世界記錄係 27.6秒,創於1998年.

Name: Willy
Topic: 石澳
Date: 10 Jan 2004
Time: 17:46:48

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稍易的上山路線，是仍舊在《東丫灣》燒烤場上山，但到山腰的分叉路時，向左（北）走（而非行走直上山的山徑），行約10分鐘，平路，然後連接正式《港島徑》（路標明顯）上山。

Name: Ah PONG
Topic: 石澳
Date: 10 Jan 2004
Time: 16:58:33

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MAK, I'd try the route last time. The story was, after had some fun for soaring, I wanted to try something new. I decided to walk the road heading south. It took an hour! The foot path is a family trial and is easy to walk, and the scenary is good as well. Should you like hiking, you might try. Regards.

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: 石澳
Date: 10 Jan 2004
Time: 09:28:13

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I want to try the easier route. Someone said it starts from another carpark further down the road, but anyone have the exact location ? How much longer does it take ? I'll go in the morning.

Name: 亞蘇
Topic: 石澳
Date: 10 Jan 2004
Time: 09:08:24

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各路英雄，今日中年石澳見，亞蘇。

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: HKRCSS週年大會
Date: 10 Jan 2004
Time: 07:39:30

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各位滑翔機師，記得明天是HKRCSS的週年大會，請盡量出席。 今天我上過飛鵝山但好大霧，所以轉移陣地去了清水灣二樓放我隻NYX，風就非常之好。明天我都好想去石澳，但週年大會的事還未完全辦好，所以唔夠時間去。但我會下午給你們電話看看是否可同往。

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: 石澳
Date: 10 Jan 2004
Time: 05:40:17

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I've been to FNS today. It was windy, but couldn't see a thing. I'll go to 石澳 on Sunday, and I'll remember to bring my Sting's wing-tips with me ! Stanley, didn't see you or Ken for a few weeks, please keep a ticket of the AGM for me. BTW, will you go to 石澳 to fly your Trinity ?

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 石澳
Date: 10 Jan 2004
Time: 03:55:07

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今日石澳D風勁到暈﹐但無亂流﹐我本來想試下將隻 Elita 推至極限﹐但飛唔到5分鐘﹐D手指已經冰封﹐幾乎感覺唔到發射個兩枝棍﹐要急急降落﹐但風大過頭﹐一時失手land左落後山﹐不過隻機無事。黃靈跟著步我後塵﹐但後山D樹好密﹐樹枝又幼﹐所以又無事。Willy 話見到科大個氣象站度到D風好弱﹐馬鞍山又吹無定向風﹐唔知飛鵝山今日也環境﹖我已經買左對保暖手套﹐聽日帶隻 Pike 同 Elita 再去石澳﹐有無人有興趣一齊 ?

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 不同牌子的晶體及接收機
Date: 10 Jan 2004
Time: 03:30:53

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我試過將JR 35MHz single-conversion 晶體擺落 Futaba 既 single conversion FM/PPM 接收. 完全可以用到﹐無問題。不過發射就唔可以。

Name: Willy
Topic: 不同牌子的發射、接收機
Date: 09 Jan 2004
Time: 20:55:58

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*************如使用PCM10的dual conversion 晶體就肯定無料到,雖然發射器與接收晶體都是JR。************************這是dual conversion 晶體與 single conversion 接收機不匹配的問題？所以一定要dual conversion 晶體配 dual conversion 接收機，single conversion 晶體配 single conversion 接收機。

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: To KK: 不同牌子的發射、接收機
Date: 09 Jan 2004
Time: 09:41:56

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" 唔得,要用同發射器牌子接收晶體 " . . . . . 我想這裏有一些誤會,我隻DLG用JR發射,JR Tx晶體,配Multiplex接收,Futaba single conversion Rx 晶體,一樣可行。其重點在於晶體須配合發射或接收線路,以發射機為例 (27MC 以上),一般都以倍頻的方式以達至所需頻率,如72MHz,若發射線路使用第五諧波,則晶體實為14.4MHz,所以發射機必須使用同廠的發射晶體以配合線路設計。同樣地,接收晶體亦須配合接收線路,接收晶體配合本地振盪(local osc)線路混合接收信號以產生所需的中頻,因此亦須使用與接收機同廠的晶體,不過一般的中頻都是455KHz(指single conversion),故很多情況下可使用別廠的接收晶體 (如我的Multiplex + Futaba),當然就盡可能使用與接收同廠的晶體啦。 至於接收晶體和發射器牌子則沒有關係,以我的例子,如使用PCM10的dual conversion 晶體就肯定無料到,雖然發射器與接收晶體都是JR。

Name: KK
Topic: RE: 不同牌子的發射、接收機
Date: 09 Jan 2004
Time: 07:06:44

Message

唔得,要用同發射器牌子接收晶體

Name: Willy
Topic: 不同牌子的發射、接收機
Date: 09 Jan 2004
Time: 06:58:14

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發射機、接收機與其內的晶體，當然要與該機同廠啦。JR發射器+JR發射晶體 配 Futaba receiver+Futaba接收晶體，無問題，PPM 的話。

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: To Allen : JR發射器+JR發射晶體 配 Futaba receiver+Futaba接收晶體
Date: 09 Jan 2004
Time: 06:56:24

Message

我有D機就係用緊呢個組合。

Name: allen
Topic: 不同牌子的發射、接收機
Date: 09 Jan 2004
Time: 05:49:13

Message

Willy, 那晶體是否要同廠呢？如果用JR發射器+JR發射晶體 配 Futaba receiver+Futaba接收晶體又得唔得呢！

Name: Ah Pong
Topic: paraglider course on 14-17/1/2004
Date: 09 Jan 2004
Time: 01:47:13

Message

Dear KY MAK, please send me a blank mail (edmond@rcsail.com). I shall forward a pre-course note to you. For YC LUI, I already have your email address. Regards.

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: trip on 14-17/1/2004
Date: 08 Jan 2004
Time: 06:21:29

Message

Hi Pong, Thanks for the advice! I'll bring face masks with me. Condoms! No thanks. Don't let my wife see your message, or you wouldn't see me flying again!

Name: Ah Pong
Topic: trip on 14-17/1/2004
Date: 07 Jan 2004
Time: 22:54:55

Message

Hi guys, I am learning computing recently. Do you mean that I should not buy Win-tel, Mac or Linux, and better switch to SUN, as it is suitable for beginners?? By the way, Ah Mak, apart from money, you should bring along some face masks for prevention of SARS, and some condoms should you need fun during night time!!

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: trip on 14-17/1/2004
Date: 07 Jan 2004
Time: 05:30:16

Message

Hi Ah Pong & YC, I've arranged 3 days off from work in next week. Are you guys ready for the 4 days trip? Ah Pong, any suggestions on what to take with us apart from money?

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: SUN and glider
Date: 07 Jan 2004
Time: 05:22:06

Message

Yes, Cross-platform compatibility, but excel at none of it! Just joking !

Name: Danny
Topic: To YC - SUN and glider
Date: 07 Jan 2004
Time: 02:21:01

Message

Oh yeah you got it. Soon MS will post a picture on their website, a pic of moldie which is - fast, but crashes easily :)

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: SUN and glider
Date: 07 Jan 2004
Time: 00:43:45

Message

OK..... I think I am getting it. The model seems to be good for slope, thermal and handlaunch, cross-platform compatibility of JAVA ?

Name: Danny
Topic: SUN and glider
Date: 07 Jan 2004
Time: 00:30:11

Message

Sure the glider runs on Java platform - stable but slow :p

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: SUN and glider
Date: 06 Jan 2004
Time: 23:55:30

Message

I think SUN doesn't know much about gliders, do they ? It's a trainer type plane in the picture. Makes me think of Apple II computers !

Name: Kong
Topic: look at his plane
Date: 06 Jan 2004
Time: 22:58:43

Message

www.sun.com

Name: Kevin
Topic: FVK ASW24 thermal flying capability?
Date: 06 Jan 2004
Time: 09:54:55

Message

With such a small semi scale plane, can it fly with only thermal uplift only?

Name: Willy
Topic: 不同牌子的發射、接收機
Date: 06 Jan 2004
Time: 09:54:10

Message

KY Mak，是，但發射器必定要是　PPM（或可選用PPM）。

Name: Tsz Ming
Topic: PPS video, very huge sailplane!
Date: 06 Jan 2004
Time: 09:39:22

Message

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=185565

Name: AC
Topic: FVK ASW 24
Date: 06 Jan 2004
Time: 02:08:00

Message

Does anybody fly ASW 24 would like to share the comment of it? I am attracted by it's look, weight & 2 piece wings. where can I get it in HK and price please? Thanks everybody.

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: 不同牌子的發射、接收機
Date: 06 Jan 2004
Time: 01:41:48

Message

Willy, 是否如果只用 FM receiver 的話，就可除意使用不同牌子的 transmitor ？也表示我不必因為手上有大量 Futaba 的 receiver 而要一生都只可用9C。其實可以試用 JR 9X 或 Multiplex 等！

Name: Willy
Topic: 不同牌子的發射、接收機
Date: 06 Jan 2004
Time: 00:12:10

Message

PPM 的話，是可兼用。連 Multiplex 發射，都可配 Futaba 接收啦。PCM 的話，就無計，一定要相同牌子。

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: 遙控器問題 - JR and Futaba
Date: 05 Jan 2004
Time: 08:47:51

Message

有關 JR Tx 可配 Futaba Rx,我有以下想法,但真的只是"想"出來,不知是否正確,還望有高人指點。JR FM 是以 carrier + 5KHz 來代表 servo pulse width,Futaba 則以 carrier - 5KHz,Servo pulses 間的 idle time 兩者都送 carrier,Mixing 及 filter 後便是 455KHz (JR 及 Futaba), 460KHz (JR) 或 450KHz (Futaba),如果我要造一個簡單的 Rx,就不管它 460 還是 450,反正不是 455KHz 就當是 servo pulse,這樣線路就易做點,也說明 Futaba Rx 可收 JR FM code。

Name: Tsz Ming
Topic: PSS movie must have a look!
Date: 05 Jan 2004
Time: 08:05:52

Message

Some videos of Korean PSS show: http://www.kokamrc.co.kr/avi/roland...vie/pss-001.wmv 17Mb, 3.32 min.

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 回Brian Chan : 遙控器問題
Date: 05 Jan 2004
Time: 07:43:30

Message

我肯定你部三和發射可以配 Futaba 或 JR 既接收機. 你部發射係也野頻率﹖或者有人可以借佢地手頭上既接收比你試下。我有 Futaba 35。080﹐ JR 72。130﹐72。400﹐ 72。550﹐ 41。000﹐ 41。060﹐ 41。110﹐ 35。160﹐ 35。080。

Name: Brian Chan
Topic: 遙控器問題
Date: 05 Jan 2004
Time: 07:19:02

Message

多謝各位師傅，現因SANWA RECEIVER無貨，代理師傅話拿SANWA ＦM SYSTEM　配其他RECEIVER． 因對代理失去信心，所以請教各位師傳，這樣配對是否可行？ 　　謝謝！

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: To Kong : 行山裝備
Date: 05 Jan 2004
Time: 05:58:19

Message

係呀﹗真係唔該晒﹐搵日去開登打士街D模型舖就一定順便買埋。

Name: Kong
Topic: 行山裝備
Date: 05 Jan 2004
Time: 05:17:48

Message

YC, 你是否指小弟所穿的那對(男人leg warmer) gaiter, 可以在花園街尾,近登打士街,香港攀山中心找到

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 遙控器問題
Date: 04 Jan 2004
Time: 17:38:19

Message

我係網上聽人講 positive shift 同 negative shift 兩種 PPM 格式好耐﹐有D牌子既接收機仲提供兩種格式俾買家選擇﹐以配合買家手頭上既發射機。好多人亦講過 Futaba 同 JR 既 PPM 格式係唔同﹐但我用JR發射配 Futaba R114F PPM 接收 (好細好平個隻 4-ch 接收)就無問題. 個接收會唔會有自動調節功能 ? 有無人真係試過由于發射同接收既 PPM 格式唔同而用唔到 ?

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: To Brian - 遙控器問題
Date: 04 Jan 2004
Time: 09:59:59

Message

If I remember correctly, Sanwa FM-PPM system is positive shift coding. Futuba uses negative shift and so they are not compatable.

Name: Brian Chan
Topic: 遙控器問題
Date: 04 Jan 2004
Time: 09:02:52

Message

遙控為FM 4 channel 不知可否?

Name: 亞蘇
Topic: 遙控器問題
Date: 04 Jan 2004
Time: 08:21:35

Message

如果你用?係AM發射,27MHZ的話，可以試一試。

Name: Brian Chan
Topic: 遙控器問題
Date: 03 Jan 2004
Time: 19:56:09

Message

Hi: 各位師傅請問用SANWA遙控器,改用FUTABA接收器可否? 謝謝!

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: 石澳
Date: 03 Jan 2004
Time: 03:45:56

Message

真係估唔到我隻 Brisk 可以快到咁離譜,原來一直係自己技術未到家,未能發揮飛機的潛能,看來還要加倍練習!

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 石澳
Date: 03 Jan 2004
Time: 03:21:07

Message

今日吹東北偏東風﹐但聽講話飛鵝山唔多掂﹐只係 Stanley 隻電蕉飛到﹐Angus見唔對路﹐即刻移師石澳。個度D lift 靚到暈,阿偉示範F3F極速劈彎秘技﹐我同CM都學到唔小野。聽日我會再去﹐阿忠會試佢隻兩米翼手龍﹐邊個有興趣跟阿偉學野可以一齊上黎。

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 行山裝備
Date: 02 Jan 2004
Time: 04:16:49

Message

呢排我去既場(科大﹐沙螺洞等)都有好多高草﹐行兩步路隻鞋就入滿草﹐好唔舒服﹐我見過有位師兄放機時著一種類似配軍靴用既腳綁﹐封著個鞋口﹐防止D沙同草走入對鞋裡面。我去過幾間賣 outing 裝備既舖頭都見唔到﹐請問有無人知道邊度有得賣﹖

Name: Danny
Topic: To 師傅梁 - 劫機
Date: 02 Jan 2004
Time: 00:16:16

Message

哇, 有無搞錯, 光天化日, 強搶硬掠, 理應送官究治, 以警傚尤, 否則, 他日必定再有同類事情再次發生, 不是飛機, 便是遙控或其他個人財物.

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: 搶機
Date: 01 Jan 2004
Time: 21:04:48

Message

Hi 師傅梁，該機是什麼形號，有什麼特徵? 好使各機友留意。

Name: 亞SO
Topic: 搶機
Date: 01 Jan 2004
Time: 08:30:26

Message

嘩！條友仔睇住佢跑到上去，仲以為佢幫手拾機，原來?賊?！下次真?要?多幾個人睇住隻機，先好過去拾機。

Name: Ricky Li
Topic: 多謝師傅梁
Date: 01 Jan 2004
Time: 07:25:54

Message

今天是小弟第一次玩遙控飛機 , 剛巧遇到師傅梁 , 真感激你教了我很多玩飛機之入門知識 . Thank you very much !!!

Name: 師傅梁
Topic: 飛鵝山搶機事件簿
Date: 01 Jan 2004
Time: 06:59:06

Message

今日帶朋友上飛鵝山放飛機,因飛機發生小故障被迫急降基維爾山頭,之後正想去拾回飛機.但見有人趕快去拾那飛機,我的朋友便趕住去找那人取回飛機,因由放機點到基維爾山頭要一段好長的路,但是去到後已人去樓空.這肯定是那人取走了據為己有.這行為好比搶掠無異. 在者! 我想告訴大家(特別是那位搶掠者)拾遺不報是犯法的,希望大家不要因貪小便宜而犯法. 多謝大家多多留意!免得失去大好前途!

Name: Willy
Topic: 2004年1月1日
Date: 01 Jan 2004
Time: 01:46:01

Message

結果去了《石澳》，正風，量度到最高風速廿三公里，總共三人。

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: flat field flying on 1/1/2004
Date: 31 Dec 2003
Time: 17:33:42

Message

Anyone have a powerful hi-start ! Please bring it along, I wish to try my 2.5M Serria's thermal capability.

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: flat field flying on 1/1/2004
Date: 31 Dec 2003
Time: 09:14:03

Message

剛整好隻電蕉，如果老婆批準我都去沙螺洞啊！

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: flat field flying on 1/1/2004
Date: 31 Dec 2003
Time: 08:57:20

Message

Hi Willy, I will go to 沙螺洞 to fly thermal. If you are going, we can also try the new field 平山仔.

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: Happy New Year
Date: 31 Dec 2003
Time: 07:58:57

Message

整緊隻 Elita 既 ballast, 唸著明日去石澳﹐但不幸整衰左﹐不過都無所謂啦﹐天文臺預測D風都唔掂﹐得兩﹐三級。聽日或者去沙螺洞飛熱氣流﹐不過呢兩日天文臺俾既熱成指數都唔多好﹐有無熱氣流都成問題。

Name: Willy
Topic: 2004年1月1日
Date: 31 Dec 2003
Time: 07:39:51

Message

這一刻（晚上11︰38），香港好多地方的分區天氣站，竟然都報無風，情形罕有。看來明日危危乎啦。請問明日，有冇人玩flat field？

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: Happy New Year
Date: 31 Dec 2003
Time: 07:28:51

Message

Hi, fellow r/c soarers, wish you have wonderful lift all year round! Where are you going to fly tomorrow to kick off a new year?

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: 沙螺洞飛熱氣流
Date: 30 Dec 2003
Time: 03:54:44

Message

Hello Kong, Do you mean 沙螺洞 ? Drive to Tai Po, and heading to 工業村方向 去沙螺洞可開車由李敢記對面的小路上山， 去到最尾有少量停車空間， 落車由左面小路行入去。 見到一塊草地，左面有間小屋的就是了。 記著要保護環境、走時清潔地方，否則日後又少一個放机地點。

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 回 Allen - 大清可以放機嗎？
Date: 29 Dec 2003
Time: 22:37:47

Message

大清適合東到東北風﹐呢排都會幾掂﹐不過要記得問band。有D人會係山頂飛﹐記著唔好問漏佢地。仲有千祈唔好第一次就自己land機﹐land power 機同滑翔機係兩回事﹐唔識既話就好大機會撞人或撞車﹐好危險。

Name: Kong
Topic: ???????
Date: 29 Dec 2003
Time: 21:35:52

Message

Dear Mak, very interested in thermal soaring, can u tell me how to go to the ???????????, thanks. Kong

Name: allen
Topic: 大清可以放機嗎？
Date: 29 Dec 2003
Time: 08:06:19

Message

我玩開power機，現在想試玩滑翔機，請問大清現在風向適合放機嗎？

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: 40" DLG
Date: 29 Dec 2003
Time: 06:49:14

Message

Hi Chester, I'm interested. I don't have a plan for 40" DLG plane yet, but would like to see how it's made. Are you using bagging on foam, or moulding method? I've read a few articles on these, but never seen one being made. Will be excellent if I can try my hands on the poject.

Name: Willy
Topic: 熱氣流
Date: 29 Dec 2003
Time: 02:19:00

Message

昨日，我行《八仙嶺》，居高臨下，見山下有一個叫《平山仔》（在《沙羅洞》旁）之山谷。其地型特別之處，是山谷之東面及北面，均被群山所擋，理應有 wind shadow 效應，會產生熱氣流。此山谷，有山路由《沙羅洞》前往。

Name: Allan Yeung
Topic: Thanks for rescuing my Mini Prima
Date: 29 Dec 2003
Time: 01:54:33

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Thanks to those who participated in rescuing my Mini Prima, especially to Johnson, Ah Lok and Ah Yuen. The accident happened in the afternoon at Clear Water Bay. I had my plane heading North at eye level at right hand side of the flying site. A yellowish-green foamy suddenly made an upward U-turn and hit my plane. The plane losted control and dived into the brush. 'Be found' was installed but it was suspected to be broken on the ground. It shouldn't be far away from the driving stand. After 2-hrs searching,I gave up, thinking it would be a totally lost. By evening, Johnson called me that the plane was recovered with help from the good guys. Of course with some damage, at least I can get my rX set back. Thanks again to everybody. BTW any good suggestion to ensure the buzzer can BEEE..EEE even after crash on HARD ROCK?

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 石澳
Date: 29 Dec 2003
Time: 00:37:21

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尋日吹東北風﹐我同阿蘇去左石澳飛大機。呢風靚到暈﹐阿蘇飛Sting, 我飛Pike﹐兩隻都要落滿鉛﹐個天又少機﹐landing 又無壓力﹐藍天碧海﹐真係飛到唔想走。有兩個傘佬﹐但係佢地只係得個睇字﹐問佢地點解唔飛﹐佢地話風速太高(當時大約係 18 km/hr) ﹐兼唔穩定。問我地借左個風速表去度一輪﹐都係唔敢起傘﹐最後 pack 傘走人。同我地飛滑翔機唔同﹐原來D傘佬一年入面適宜飛既日子真係唔多﹐我地應該盡量就佢地。石澳呢排唔知搞也鬼﹐下午去都好易有車位﹐唔駛泊上行人路或避車處﹐呢排成日吹東北風﹐要享受石澳個靚場就係呢個時候。出門之前最好打電話問問天文台橫瀾島既風向﹐如果係60度就最正。

Name: Tsz Ming
Topic: Review of Bat DS
Date: 28 Dec 2003
Time: 22:48:31

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Go this link: http://www.speedfreeks.com/reviews.php?service_id=3 to see the Bat DS review by Speedfreeks.

Name: Chester
Topic: Fuse for 40" DLG
Date: 28 Dec 2003
Time: 20:28:14

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Mak, We can built some FG fuse for 40" DLG, contact me if you have interest.

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: 沙螺洞飛熱氣流
Date: 27 Dec 2003
Time: 18:01:28

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星期六同 YC 去咗大埔沙螺洞玩熱氣流。場地係一塊生到腰高的草地。YC 正在安裝 Hi-Start 時、我將隻 Mini Corado 空手掟上 20呎左右。發覺隻机飛起上來同平時飛山坡好唔同。隻机一時上、一時落，好像 CG 未 set 好一樣。等 YC 裝好 Hi-Start 放飛時，YC 隻 Mini Corado 射左上幾拾呎高，但飛起上來都一樣，好像 CG 未 set 好！後來才發覺這正正就是我哋想要的上升氣流！不過、可能隻机高度不足，啲上升氣流個圓周好細，很難掌握好氣流的運用。還好、有幾次都可以乘著氣流上升、玩得好開心！ 個場傍邊其實還有很多長了高草的空地，只要再清理一下，加長條 HiStart ，就可射上更高，可能容易找到大型啲氣流。 有冇人想再去？

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: 試製真空袋成型DLG或Beetle
Date: 27 Dec 2003
Time: 07:46:20

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有地方就好極。當你試你的真空袋時記得叫埋我睇睇。如要用真空袋造翼我們還要有cut foam core既發熱線和工具，有冇辨法整番套這樣的工具，或者我們可抓生產商定購一套大家用。

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: 試製真空袋成型DLG或Beetle
Date: 26 Dec 2003
Time: 19:16:59

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Stanley, 地方不是大問題，我在大埔有間舊屋可以用。如果有興趣，我可以把它清理好做工作坊。各机友一同合力製作。可於星期六、日放完机就去整机。更有茶水、公仔麵供應！ 開唔開心哩！

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: 真空袋成型
Date: 26 Dec 2003
Time: 07:46:04

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啊麥，如果可行的話，我自已都想掌握mold機既技術，無奈家中地方細小，又有隻雌老虎座陣，有心無力！如果你試制成功，可不可以幫我造隻Beetle翼，我相信Molded Beetle一定好好玩！

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: 試製真空袋成型DLG
Date: 26 Dec 2003
Time: 07:36:08

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The Guper Gee is a good one, but difficult to make. The Terminator should be a easier project for less experienced builders. Have a look at the follow links！ Anyone want to have a go? http://www.geocities.com/pipeline/halfpipe/4579/supergee.html http://www.charlesriverrc.org/articles/terminatorhlg/terminatorhlg.htm

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 日本 HLG 賽
Date: 26 Dec 2003
Time: 03:29:24

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我地成日話香港無適合玩 HLG 既地方﹐原來日本個邊仲差﹐http://www65.tok2.com/home2/r/movie/Shizuoka_HLG_2003.wmv 人地呢場比賽係濕地及陰天既環境下進行﹐即係話淨飛 dead air, 但一樣做到五十幾秒既留空記錄.睇落佢地有好多”自作業“機﹐性能仲非常好﹐真係令小弟十分佩服。阿麥今日提議試製真空袋成型DLG﹐用 Mark Drela 既設計﹐有無人有興趣一齊研究 ?

Name: Willy
Topic: 科大
Date: 25 Dec 2003
Time: 19:01:08

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個「科大」站，現正報勁風，我會盡快到。Allen，位置見 http://www.rcsail.com/OtherSites.htm#Pak Shui Wun in Sai Kung

Name: YC Lui
Topic: To 子明 - 深涌
Date: 25 Dec 2003
Time: 17:51:25

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子明﹐尋日你唔黎就真係有所損失喇﹐我地入去深涌咁多次﹐尋日先至係真正見識到也野係平地熱氣流﹐我隻mini Corado 係低空連續打三個loop 都無也損失高度﹐CM 仲勁﹐手掟隻 1.5米 Lucia DLG 上去﹐跟?坐熱氣流飛到無雷公咁高﹐飛好耐至落黎。原來冬天先至係飛熱氣流既好時間。Paul Naton 套 “Secret Of Thermal Soaring” video 入面提過 lapse rate﹐即係空氣隨高度增加而降溫既速率。如果 lapse rate 好高﹐即係話熱氣泡係地面 形成後一路升﹐周圍既空氣都保持凍過佢 ﹐ 所以個熱氣泡可以升到好高至停﹐形成強勁上升氣流。天文臺最近提供俾飛行運動用既熱成指數 http://www.weather.gov.hk/aviat/soaring_c/wxidx/index.shtml?menu=wxidx﹐好可能係基于 lapse rate。 直到尋為止呢D都係理論﹐能夠實地體驗下真係好開心。

Name: Willy
Topic: 科大
Date: 25 Dec 2003
Time: 17:39:21

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位置此網頁 Flying Sites 的部分有講。不過今日弱風，唔掂。

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: 12月26日，科大
Date: 25 Dec 2003
Time: 17:37:50

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Hi Willy, 你今日幾點去科大呀？我就會早啲去。大約10:30左右啦！ Allen想要的位置圖就冇，不過我今日去到會影啲相，方便其他師兄找路。 我新出咗個 WalkieTalky，今日會用 ch 20/0 有冇人帶机去試玩？

Name: Robin
Topic: Merry Christmas
Date: 25 Dec 2003
Time: 09:59:21

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To everyone :?)

Name: allen
Topic: 「科大」飛北位係边？
Date: 25 Dec 2003
Time: 07:44:31

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如題，有冇位置圖？

Name: Tsz Ming
Topic: 深涌
Date: 25 Dec 2003
Time: 07:21:43

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Please update me what happen in 深涌 today.

Name: Willy
Topic: 12月26日，科大
Date: 25 Dec 2003
Time: 03:56:35

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今日在《深涌》，真是大開眼界。 明日天氣預告，北風5至6級。若明日下午，「科大」Automatic Weather Station http://ccar.ust.hk/dataview/aws/current/ust.py 的讀數真是如此的話，我會去「科大」飛北位，歡迎各位同來。

Name: Robert Yan
Topic: Merry Christmas and Happy New Year 2004
Date: 24 Dec 2003
Time: 02:15:45

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I wish everybody, members and non-members, a very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year of 2004, lots of good lifts and happy landings.

Name: YC Lui
Topic: Season’s Greeting
Date: 23 Dec 2003
Time: 18:37:55

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Wish everybody a joyous Christmas and may we all look forward to a new year with lifty air and smiles on our faces .

Name: KK
Topic: JR DS-161 digital wing servo
Date: 23 Dec 2003
Time: 06:10:59

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這隻servo 見到卓藝有現貨賣，想找的可去睇睇

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: Flying Sites for North-Easterly Wind
Date: 22 Dec 2003
Time: 19:39:41

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The Shek O site is EXCELLENT when the wind is north-easterly to easterly. Just went there last Sunday. May try the HKUST site when the wind is northerly. The site is rather quiet so it's good for practicing and testing set-ups. I flew my Shooting Star there last Saturday until the receive battery ran out.

Name: Jimmy
Topic: Flying Sites for North East Wing
Date: 22 Dec 2003
Time: 18:59:42

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Recently, the wind is mainly from North or North-East. Such wind direction does not provide good lift in Clear Water Bay or Fei Ngor Shan. I wonder anyone knows a good site for North-East, or Even North?

Name: Yeung
Topic: 雪櫃電泵
Date: 22 Dec 2003
Time: 17:20:44

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You may also get the 0.6,0.7,0.8 mm etc push rodwire from your (probably your wife's) piano. Ha!

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: 雪櫃電泵
Date: 22 Dec 2003
Time: 09:38:55

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oops, sorry, it's CDROM, not DVD.

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: 雪櫃電泵
Date: 22 Dec 2003
Time: 09:30:27

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唔. . . 阿邦就拆DVD個摩打,阿麥就拆左屋企雪櫃個泵,唔知邊個會拆埋把風扇造螺旋槳,鋸埋把掃把造尾通 . . .

Name: Ken
Topic: 雪櫃電泵
Date: 22 Dec 2003
Time: 08:38:32

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Mak, 請留意雪櫃泵之出氣管有很多油會噴出來，那是雪種內之潤滑油。可將出氣管接上一條垂直向上之粗管。令潤滑油不會溜走.在關機後自動流回泵內。若電泵長時間欠缺潤滑油，泵的壽命會很短，很快便抽不到氣。若能令潤滑油在抽氣時可以流回入氣管,效果會更好。很久以前我是用此方法來做冷氣系統抽真空的。

Name: Robert Yan
Topic: Vacuum Pump
Date: 22 Dec 2003
Time: 08:08:06

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Hi, K. Y, Mak Correction: " If it is, there is NO need for a transformer. " Sorry to misspell your name in the previous note. Happy landing.

Name: Robert Yan
Topic: Vacuum Pump
Date: 22 Dec 2003
Time: 08:04:36

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Hi, Y K Mak, The use of a refrigeration pump is logical in vacuum bagging. The smaller tubes are for discharge and larger tubes are for suction. Your equipment for vacuuming should be connected to the larger pipe(s). Your pump could be a 240 volt machine. If it is, there is need for a transformer. (Please also check the name plate on the side of your pump to make sure. Remember to earth the casing before you do anything.)

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: Vacuum pump
Date: 22 Dec 2003
Time: 07:34:11

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嘩﹗阿麥﹗也你玩到連屋企個雪櫃都拆埋呀﹖唉。。真係中毒太深囉。。

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: Vacuum pump
Date: 22 Dec 2003
Time: 06:57:39

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各位師兄, 我正打算學造真空成型的飛机。 在網上找到一些教造真空設備的文章。其中一編是利用雪樻的電pump做真空pump。 我已經把個舊雪樻pump拿了出來，上面有兩大兩細的銅管(共四條銅管)，請問有冇人知那一條是應連接到真空袋的？個電pump是否直接用220volt的？我看雪撌裏好像沒有火牛！ 請各位指教一下。謝謝！

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 12月25日，深涌
Date: 22 Dec 2003
Time: 05:07:52

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現鐵定10點鐘係園藝農場門口等(千祈唔好駛架車入去﹗)﹐我已經約好船家。無電機D人可以玩彈射﹐阿Ken有條勁橡筋﹐同 ”win 子“ 有得揮﹐ 彈3米機都應該無問題。可惜我隻 Graphite 未砌﹐隻 Pike 又鋸左個彈射鉤﹐如果唔係實帶入去試下。

Name: Tsz Ming
Topic: Too bad
Date: 22 Dec 2003
Time: 04:22:17

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I really hope to go together, but all members of my family in law will visit my home on that day...:-{ god! what can I do???

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 12月23日，深涌
Date: 21 Dec 2003
Time: 22:01:08

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Willy, 我地應該最遲11點就到深涌﹐你可以預約莫咁上下時間入黎搵我地。

Name: Willy
Topic: 12月23日，深涌
Date: 21 Dec 2003
Time: 21:45:59

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我會由《企嶺下》步行入去，我估計要2小時，請問究竟幾點在《深涌》聚集？10點？

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: 聖誕節入深涌
Date: 21 Dec 2003
Time: 05:30:10

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12月25日我都入深涌放機，但我隻電蕉還未整好！Y.C.要借你隻Highlight冠軍機玩玩。

Name: Ringo
Topic: 今天有人錯誤地換掉我的工具箱
Date: 21 Dec 2003
Time: 03:15:59

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今天各位去清水灣放飛機的朋友, 如果是用工具箱的話, 請你們檢查有沒有錯誤地換掉我的工具箱, 請各位今天有去過, 有用工具箱, 或者用35MHz請和我聯絡, 我的電話是92228678.

Name: Ah PONG
Topic: Camping
Date: 20 Dec 2003
Time: 06:01:22

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Got you guys message. I'll think about it and tell you as soon as possible.

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 屏風山露營
Date: 20 Dec 2003
Time: 04:29:32

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今日阿Alex 同 Angus 見到我又問係唔係去屏風山露營﹐似乎都幾多人對行山露營有興趣﹐阿邦可唔可以唸唸個計劃﹐然後講出來比大家聽下。

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 聖誕節入深涌
Date: 20 Dec 2003
Time: 04:22:13

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阿堅提議12月25日入深涌放機。大約早上十點入去﹐下午三點走。如果晚上有節目應該唔駛趕。話左去既有阿堅﹐阿楊﹐肥輝﹐Willy,CM,同我。如其他人有興趣一齊去請在此留個message.個日可以玩電機﹐手擲機,彈射同放狗。

Name: Tsz Ming
Topic: SZD-55
Date: 20 Dec 2003
Time: 03:34:26

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Mak I can't go the the slope tomorrow, may be next week. Or you can call me on Monday. Tsz Ming

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: SZD-55
Date: 20 Dec 2003
Time: 03:10:00

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Hello Tsz Ming, Where will you go on Sunday? I'm looking forward to pickup the plane. Master Leung, have you finished building the SZD-55 yet? If so, lets see how it flys, but don't crash it, not until my SZD-55 have the chance to fly formation with yours together !

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: 電機狂熱
Date: 19 Dec 2003
Time: 10:15:43

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Yes, I can go. I'll fly DLG and may also bring the electric glider.

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: 電機狂熱
Date: 19 Dec 2003
Time: 10:15:42

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Yes, I can go. I'll fly DLG and may also bring the electric glider.

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: 電機狂熱
Date: 19 Dec 2003
Time: 08:06:23

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上次無緣與各位電機友比試，好、等我整番好隻電蕉後再入深涌與各位機師切初。聖誕期間有冇人入去深涌放電機或DLG？

Name: Ah Pong
Topic: Watch out for hill fire
Date: 19 Dec 2003
Time: 07:41:10

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Dear YC and KY MAK, the warning signal is RED for the time being. Better watch out when you warming your hand!! Regarding '電機狂熱', I am also studying the method for converting CDROM motor into brushless via RCGROUP's forum. By the way, the tentive date for the paraglider course is 14 to 17 in JAN, please arrange your vacatuion leave accordingly. Regards, PONG.

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: 電機狂熱
Date: 19 Dec 2003
Time: 05:34:48

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YC, 起碼重有我陪你地去飛 DLG 机，放心啦！

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 電機狂熱
Date: 19 Dec 2003
Time: 05:01:00

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電機比賽已成過去﹐但係D人似乎意猶未盡﹐我收到報告話有人已經訂左一批戰機﹐話下次電機比賽志在必得咁話﹐又有人秘密研製DIY超輕機﹐好似話用150mAH Ni-Cd 電都好掂。聖誕節更有人準備入深涌實地試驗一種我未聽過既摩打﹐嘩﹗一場比賽令班友仔轉晒行﹐以後仲有無人陪我玩 glider 架 ?

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 2003年12月20日星期六，「科大」
Date: 19 Dec 2003
Time: 03:26:10

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聽日肯定D風大到掟個人出去都飛到﹐我會去試下。不過聽日凍到黐肺﹐最好有人帶個炭爐上去煨手﹐如果唔係D手指硬晒好容易會炒機。

Name: Willy
Topic: 2003年12月20日星期六，「科大」
Date: 19 Dec 2003
Time: 01:20:00

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天氣預告勁北風，有無人去？

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 跟?玩也﹖
Date: 18 Dec 2003
Time: 07:24:14

Message

依家我補緊隻Highlight 同 mini Corado, 補完之後就會砌我個隻擺左好耐既一米發泡膠DLG。隻機既滑翔性能應該麻嘛﹐希望機仔細細會易掟D。ICARE 既service幾好﹐我最近至同佢地買左個charger。佢地答email同送貨都幾快﹐價錢及運費算合理﹐不過隻Osiris可能未必係佢最平﹐先排CM同NSP買隻Lucia DLG,結構同Osiris一樣﹐都係全mold機﹐但價錢我記得只係約 HK$1600. 同樣既mold機仲有其它選擇﹐好似 Highlight DLG ( QEFI 最近介紹過), Gladiator 等﹐可以問多幾間至下決定。台灣個邊D人好似幾鍾意隻Salsa。 http://www.modelflight.com.au/rc_model_sailplanes_gliders/sailplanes_rchlg_salsa.htm 或者可以唸下.

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: Osiris
Date: 18 Dec 2003
Time: 06:49:29

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隻Osiris用Dr.Drela的Ag糸翼形,肯定掂! 亞麥幾時去放請通知,我都想去見識見識! 聽講一"fing"就幾十米!

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: 跟?玩也﹖
Date: 18 Dec 2003
Time: 06:39:40

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有冇人想玩 DLG ? 我打算把隻 Art Hobby 1M V尾機改成 DLG 機。 在icare 有隻 OSiris DLG 机 us$269，good looking! Anyone used their service?

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: Funny theory
Date: 16 Dec 2003
Time: 22:13:26

Message

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=172694&highlight=kinematic+ugliness

Name: Tsz Ming
Topic: Bee meeting
Date: 16 Dec 2003
Time: 09:51:41

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Can I request all Bee pilots to show their nice Bee on 28th Dec (Sunday) at 2:00 pm in Clear Water Bay? I hope to take some nice photo for oversea hobby magazine advertising. Thank all fellow!

Name: Tsz Ming
Topic: New site for electric fun
Date: 16 Dec 2003
Time: 08:00:47

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http://forum.hkoceanshores.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=6825&PN=1

Name: Tsz Ming
Topic: What to do?
Date: 16 Dec 2003
Time: 07:58:51

Message

Fun fly electric la!

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: 跟?玩也﹖
Date: 16 Dec 2003
Time: 07:21:36

Message

我要寫F3F timer,冇得砌機,唉~

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 跟?玩也﹖
Date: 16 Dec 2003
Time: 05:53:04

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頻繁既賽事暫告一段落﹐除左補機外﹐大家有也野做﹖我估擺低左好耐既越野飛行計劃應該可以睇番﹐呢排吹北風﹐唔係好適合測試飛鵝山至馬鞍山既飛行航線﹐或者可以用電機練習遠程空中交接技巧。上次話去屏風山露營放機係唔係真﹖阿邦有無也野計劃﹖

Name: 亞蘇
Topic: 賽後檢討
Date: 16 Dec 2003
Time: 03:39:23

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史提芬,唔使多謝我喎，不過舊水電池又?差Ｄ喎!拖多幾隻差機一個鐘頭唔夠力，冇晒奶，下次都??村長駁電好Ｄ，唔使差差下就乾晒嘛！ 仲有今次比賽我可以大開眼界，下次一定?隻好Ｄ的電機再參加比賽。

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: spot landing movies
Date: 15 Dec 2003
Time: 05:36:10

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Hi YC, 師父梁 land 机飛過嚨，你都唔洗跳來跳去㗎！重緊張過自己飛？

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: 賽後檢討
Date: 15 Dec 2003
Time: 05:05:27

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Chester, 我平時只飛無動力滑翔机，沒有現成的12volt粉電。 其實我都想過買個粉電去，但好可能只在電机比賽用一次、就以後冇用！十分浪費，所以冇買。7粒電又set死咗入架電Bee入面，不能更換！ 如果可以請村長拉條220volt電線去比賽場地，我們只須帶一個12volt火牛(我有個現成的火牛可用)，就全部人都唔洗帶水電或粉電，比較方便。下年電机賽可以想吓是否可行。

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: spot landing movies
Date: 15 Dec 2003
Time: 03:18:18

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Hi there, I have put up some movies on the spot landing contest yesterday. http://www.rcsail.com/movies.htm It is amazing that not many pilots made it correctly. Master Leung actually has one good chance but somehow overshot the plane and was blaming Y.C. for some reasons. Good fun to look at!

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: 賽後檢討 - 電
Date: 15 Dec 2003
Time: 01:46:28

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我帶咗4 pack 600mah 電，唸𠰍夠用，掂知...............

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: 賽後檢討 - 電
Date: 15 Dec 2003
Time: 01:22:29

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我自己都有帶舊7Ah的小粉電,但唔知係唔係太舊差了兩分鐘就冇電,好在塊鋰電夠電飛完所有賽事。

Name: Chester
Topic: 賽後檢討
Date: 15 Dec 2003
Time: 00:54:03

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我自已就帶舊細o既粉電,都义到四排干二電.其實一早就話咗义電自備o家啦. 聽到有人帶就自己唔帶,無得講. ;)

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: 賽後檢討
Date: 15 Dec 2003
Time: 00:50:11

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Hi 阿 Ken, 翻查電機賽的成績,定點著陸對成績的比重頗高,如第二名的George,雖其每回合的滯空時間都有5分左右,但YC卻能以一次"黃金十分",使他在飛少一次及較短的滯空時間的情況下仍能取得冠軍 (YC 唔好意思,囉你來比 :) 。看來對有flap或airbrake的飛機較為有利。

Name: Ken
Topic: 電變，接收, 兩隻Servos 和摩打
Date: 14 Dec 2003
Time: 22:44:31

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YC, 看來你在破壞我的好事,今次Stanley一定不會上當了。哈哈!

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: 電變，接收, 兩隻Servos 和摩打
Date: 14 Dec 2003
Time: 22:41:37

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我隻電變燒到七彩，裏面啲銅線已經完全腐蝕，啲MOS FET都差不多燒光。隻接收睇落好似無事，但開著後一啲反應都無，我詁計是燒電變時8.4V電直過BEC把它燒埋，連兩隻機身上FS3106 Servos也燒埋！至於機翼既HiTec servos就無事。其實個水池啲水肯定是鹹水。下次真是要打十二分精神！

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 電變，接收, 兩隻Servos 和摩打
Date: 14 Dec 2003
Time: 22:04:52

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Stanley, 上次我隻 mini Corado係同一位置跌落水﹐浸得仲耐過你隻電蕉﹐但機上4隻 Futaba 3106 servo都無入水﹐我估你今次入水既係個兩隻Hitec翼servo, 不防試下寄返美國 Hitec廠修理。Hitec出名服務好﹐佢地極有可能送番兩隻新 servo俾你。電變可以試下同樣做法﹐不過先問下 Aircraft World 既 David 會好D, 個 Hacker 摩打多數無事﹐因為個魚塘鹹水成份小﹐加上當時個摩打無電到同埋摩打入面無炭擦個部份既電氣接觸﹐應該用得番。Futaba 做修理出名貴﹐睇怕買過隻接收會較化算。

Name: Ken
Topic: 電變，接收, 兩隻Servos 和摩打
Date: 14 Dec 2003
Time: 20:22:01

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我願意出200元收購stanley之壞電變，接收,兩隻Servos. 若他的摩打亦壞了.我可以加多50. 是否有人比我的出價更高?

Name: Stephen
Topic: 賽後檢討
Date: 14 Dec 2003
Time: 19:44:59

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今次賽事可算成功，但還有很多可改善的地方。若下次比賽可考慮如機友可借部220v小形發電機就好啦！因今次連水電都給各機友用到乾，我要感謝呀蘇借舊水電給大家用。更希望Stanley隻摩打冇死，如果唔係就傷哂咯！

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: 今日賽事
Date: 14 Dec 2003
Time: 08:03:11

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英文版賽事報告已經有得睇。 今日雖然好不幸，隻機跌落水，搞到無得玩，但睇見咁緊張刺激既比賽，就非常開心。 講開又講，我今日損失慘重，電變，接收和兩隻Servos都收工，隻摩打重未知死唔死！慘！

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 賽後檢討
Date: 14 Dec 2003
Time: 07:05:18

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上次手擲機比賽大部份飛機都只係飛到大約20到30秒﹐難度太高﹐對普通機友未必會有吸引力﹐今日既電機比賽就唔同﹐我個人覺得幾好玩﹐因為滑翔由較高高度開始﹐機師有較多時間搵上昇氣流同埋策劃降落航道。同F3F唔同﹐電機比賽較為多面化﹐每一個人都有機會贏。落重本個D機唔一定著數晒。譬如今日阿楊隻機爬升速度好高﹐原來佢只係用普通380有炭擦摩打加一個約170蚊既齒輪箱。George隻Hirobo 木機更睇落完全唔似熱氣流機﹐佢仲用1600mAH 重電﹐無用折槳﹐但留空時間就出乎意料咁長。據今日觀察﹐識得搵上昇氣流同埋降落時能準確評估飛機既能量先至係至勝之道。同隻機幾貴無也關係。今日比賽過程都幾暢順﹐節奏明快﹐唯參賽飛機似乎故障頗多﹐下次各機師最好預備好D﹐如果唔係就要吊癮。今日最慘都係 Stanley ﹐ 一個回合都無賽過隻機就跌落水﹐但佢好似一D都無受影響﹐仍然好落力去主持賽事﹐真係唔話得。

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: 賽後檢討
Date: 14 Dec 2003
Time: 06:28:37

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下次可否請村長安排12V電力? 在此恭喜 YC 取得電動滑翔機留空及定點降落賽之冠軍。

Name: Ken
Topic: 賽後檢討
Date: 14 Dec 2003
Time: 05:16:32

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今天的電機賽，對我來說已是非常成功。但相信仍有很多地方須要改善。各機友若有任何意見,請盡量提出，以便下次比賽時作出修正。

Name: Robin
Topic: Video
Date: 13 Dec 2003
Time: 09:36:43

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YC you always find the greatest videos....the rocket is the best video i ever saw in my life! Thanks for posting it.

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 放夜機
Date: 13 Dec 2003
Time: 03:15:01

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http://163.17.202.6/~rocket/flywork/921010/fire.WMV

Name: Tsz Ming
Topic: SZD-55
Date: 12 Dec 2003
Time: 18:18:41

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I have to go China today and tomorrow, may be next week.

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: SZD-55
Date: 12 Dec 2003
Time: 09:53:36

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Tsz Ming, nice to know the SZD-55 is finally here. Can you take it to me on this Sunday?

Name: Robin
Topic: Where to buy?
Date: 12 Dec 2003
Time: 02:25:32

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Anybody know a good model shop that carrys GWS planes from taiwan? Thanks.

Name: Willy
Topic: Flying site for Saturday, 13 Dec 2003
Date: 11 Dec 2003
Time: 23:40:51

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Northerly wind, force 4 to 5 forecasted for tomorrow. Anybody going to the HKUST site?

Name: Tsz Ming
Topic: SZD-55 arrived
Date: 11 Dec 2003
Time: 21:39:26

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Mak Inform you that, 3 meter SZD-55 just arrived to my office. It seem very nice, it come with installed airbreak and landing gear. Tsz Ming

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: Guess what this is
Date: 11 Dec 2003
Time: 19:34:22

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The white thing on the right of the picture http://pierre.rondel.free.fr/images2/DG_4.jpg

Name: Robin
Topic: Tiny discus launch glider
Date: 10 Dec 2003
Time: 23:02:07

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WOW, wish i had that plane, that launch video! So nice, little too $$ when you add on all the tiny elec's & special battery needed. But wish i had one anyway :?) (now you got me thinking)..maybe no need for a motor with a plane like that right?, I'm no good at thermal's but bet you could even get slope lift off the surrounding trees with it!!

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: Tiny discus launch glider
Date: 10 Dec 2003
Time: 19:55:02

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http://www.liftworx.com/pages/seeker.html . According to the maker, no rudder offset or gyro was used in that true and straight launch shown in the video.

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: To Robin - that little boy
Date: 10 Dec 2003
Time: 17:21:20

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Hi Robin, You must be talking about Mak's boy. Yes, he is a really nice kid, may be also a great pilot one day. He will be competing with the big guys in the upcoming contest.

Name: Ken
Topic: Obsession for power ?
Date: 10 Dec 2003
Time: 10:00:58

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For a plane have enough power, it will loss its sight in 1 minute. But if we set the time too short, it will not be fair for the small glider because they make not be high enough to catch the thermo lift. That is the reason we set the motor running time at 40 secs. Please not think that a powerful plane will always win, reason is they will have a very heavy battery and motor, it will make the plane sink very fast. Also the spot landing will be more difficult for them. Even if they win in the duration score, they will always lose the 10 score points on spot landing section. I am making a small plane for my 2 sons. I hope they can get more score in the spot landing section. Hope the wind will not be strong there.

Name: Ken
Topic: Electric sailplane competition - question
Date: 10 Dec 2003
Time: 09:44:24

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CM, I agree that it is difficult to see the propeller turning when it is in sky. But if we do the monitoring too formal by equipment, it will cost a lot and I do not have skill to do that. The various type of transmitters also make the task difficult. At this is time, all we can do is to check the equipment and test all switches first to ensire the motor do not move when the Throttle stick is at its lowerest position, if he need to operate any button during the flight, he need to test the button function to us first, We will mark this on the count sheet for the Judge to review. Each contestant will have a judge standing behind him to count the time, he also need to check the switch/ lever positions to make sure no unknown switches were touched. But I do not think there will be cheating in the activity. If we still have query on fairness after the contest, we will try to make some equipment to monitor the Channel 3 position in our next contest. I think all our engineers are rushing on building their planes at this moment.

Name: Ken
Topic: Spot Landing
Date: 10 Dec 2003
Time: 08:35:53

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YC, Spot landing is not so easy in the contest. Reason is we have 5 flights and we do not allow plane change during the contest. If you try to land it hard, the motor shaft will bend or the whole plane will damage. You can replace or repair the motor, and you can replace the propeller set, but once the plane body break, you cannot continue. So everybody has one chance to do the hard landing, that is the last round. Motor glider is a lot heavier, we cannot do the spot landing easy without causing damage. Remember to bring more Epoxy if you plan to land you plane on spot.

Name: Robin
Topic: Y C
Date: 10 Dec 2003
Time: 07:52:48

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Hey YC, is it your little boy (from Tai Po) who was telling me to stop smoking at the last combat comp? he's very cute. Please tell him i followed his advice, the Gwilo stopped smoking yesterday!..........Good Luck.

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: Obsession for power
Date: 10 Dec 2003
Time: 02:31:15

Message

OK…… I have forgotten the wind which will be strong northerly this Sunday so those flying light and floaty models better be more careful. How about putting more effort in the spot landing part which has got a rather high weighting in the scoring scheme ? For you guys’ reference, here is how Joe Wurts landed his plane in the 2002 international F3J contest : http://www.geocities.com/glidersrc/pag_noticias/f3jworlds2002/landingwurts.jpg

Name: Robin
Topic: Obsession for power
Date: 09 Dec 2003
Time: 23:34:21

Message

What if it is very windy the compition day?, In force 4-5, A plane with a tiny motor will not even move forward much into the wind to gain any height to be a treat to the 300 geared motors. As said before, if it is a fine sunny day then the power package will not be so important, light frame & knowledge of lift will win, but who knows the weather hahaha, wish you all luck ;?)

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: Electric sailplane competition - question
Date: 09 Dec 2003
Time: 20:19:54

Message

If the plane is flying high, how can the judges determine if the motor is on or off?

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: Obsession for power ?
Date: 09 Dec 2003
Time: 17:38:33

Message

Come on guys, we are flying sailplanes here. I received a secret report yesterday that one of our guys tested his weapon last week and he had to shut off the motor before the expiry of the 40 sec. period because the plane was so high up that he could not see it! I believe getting it light, having a design that is good for floating plus an accute sense of lift is more important than a mean power package in the forthcoming contest.

Name: Robin
Topic: Stanley
Date: 09 Dec 2003
Time: 11:35:53

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From what i've lear'nt so far, which is not a much, Most (commercial) motor setups are not able to lift the plane to a hover. To find out:.........1st weigh your plane, 2nd measure your thurst (get a small fishing scale >5kg, hook it to your tail, hang it up, Put a sticker on the new starting point of the needle, throttle 100% = ???grms). You now compare the two.....Should give you a rough idea of your planes performance. Hope it helps.

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: What is this plane
Date: 09 Dec 2003
Time: 10:22:49

Message

I think it is a F20.

Name: Tsz Ming
Topic: SZD-55
Date: 09 Dec 2003
Time: 09:35:55

Message

Mak Sorry to let you know that, the SZD-55 not yet arrive. I don't know what happen on them?! Tsz Ming

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: What is this plane
Date: 09 Dec 2003
Time: 08:33:07

Message

Hi friends, Anyone know the name of the sailplane on the main page of Carbon Art? The one on the top of the page, that have a red cross on it's wing. It looks so good! http://www.radiocarbonart.com/Pages/mainrca.html

Name: Ken
Topic: Electric glider power
Date: 09 Dec 2003
Time: 05:46:42

Message

Stanley, If you do not need your plane to do the 3D aerobatic motions, your motor is power enough. In fact, the most important thing for you to check now is to make sure you can have the same power for 40 seconds.

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: To Stanley - Electric Glider Power
Date: 09 Dec 2003
Time: 05:36:55

Message

It is better than normal if you can get a 45 degree continuous climb! I hope my little Speed 300 has this performance. . . Still thinking of what your secret weapon is. . .

Name: Stephen
Topic: E-mail address@rcsail.com
Date: 09 Dec 2003
Time: 04:26:13

Message

stanly, I want an e-mail address too "stephen@rcsail.com" thanks.

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: Electric glider power
Date: 09 Dec 2003
Time: 04:04:58

Message

I almost finish building my electric glider for the competition on 14 Dec. One question is, how much thrust power the motor generated is sufficient? With all the load of battery (600mAH) and other stuff, I don't think my plane is heavy at all, but when I hold the plane in hand and apply full throtle, it seems that the power the motor generates is not sufficient to lift the aircraft for a vertical climb. However, a 45 degree climb may be possible. Do you think that will be sufficient for the competition? I have seen some electric gliders on the slope and they all seems not capable of vertical climb.

Name: Willy
Topic: 意外次數
Date: 09 Dec 2003
Time: 01:46:36

Message

《飛鵝山》巳算少意外了。上次跟大隊由《科大》去《清水灣》，在後者逗留短短半個鐘頭，巳有兩單EPP機撞到汽車，其中一單個機師與個司機拗到我走都還未拗完。

Name: Danny
Topic: 飛鵝山意外
Date: 08 Dec 2003
Time: 20:58:06

Message

凡事總有第一次, 不論是 EPP 或大纖維機. 所以, 合適既場地時間態度和充足既安全措施才是關鍵. 飛(或看) EPP 其實都有危險, 只是損傷不會很大. 我女友試過比隻床板撞倒, 個 pilot 走埋離執機就走, sorry 都無聲, 不知所謂

Name: Tsz Ming
Topic: 飛鵝山意外
Date: 08 Dec 2003
Time: 20:31:40

Message

My point is, not every one able to drive F-1 like car racing. Please be sure you are OK to drive that very high speed sailplane or large wingspan before to buy. That is totally difference kind of plane, right?

Name: 亞蘇
Topic: 加入電郵
Date: 08 Dec 2003
Time: 09:22:33

Message

Stanley! 請將以下電郵地址加入，"alexso@rcsail.com" Thanks 亞蘇

Name: MingFai
Topic: E-mail address @rcsail.com
Date: 08 Dec 2003
Time: 09:04:37

Message

Stanley, I want one too. "mingfai@rcsail.com" Thanks MingFai

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: 飛鵝山意外
Date: 08 Dec 2003
Time: 03:23:15

Message

由Ah Pong 信中所講的情況，可以想像到當時險被 Hades 撞到的仁兄，是受了非常巨大的驚嚇。 以致一會兒木獨的坐在欄上，一會兒又跳出欄外，擊打那已斷的 Hades 机翼！ 相信他當時己無法控制情緒。所以我們不應對他的不禮言語加以責怪。 其實這位仁兄也真的很無辜，看風景中途被嚇個半死，也實在可憐！ 他沒有當場打人，己是難能可貴，十分有教養！ 我們身為机司，也應該多些關注其他公眾人仕的安全問題。 其實飛行模型是有一定的風險。 就像開車那樣。大机就好比大貨車，比小机具有更大的剎傷力。 不同處只是開貨車要考牌，而放大机、小机都無須考牌。 只由机司自我評估自己的技術，及當時的風險。 在風險管理上，可於技術未成熟前，可選擇： 於少遊人的時間放机(正常上班時間或早上少人時間)、 在少人到的場地放机(eg.高流灣)、 在大場放机 (eg. 馬鞍山)等... 多行幾步山路、海闊天空。 各机友，不如組小隊上高流灣等地放 mould 机。如何！

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: mak@rcsail.com
Date: 08 Dec 2003
Time: 00:43:33

Message

Hi Stanley, That's nice! I want the email address mak@rcsail.com Thank you!

Name: Chester
Topic: Forum
Date: 08 Dec 2003
Time: 00:07:47

Message

There are some forum that a quiet good, take a look as example www.intlwaters.com

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: Forum
Date: 07 Dec 2003
Time: 23:37:06

Message

I will have a major upgrade to the site after Christmas when I have more time to do it during X'mas holiday. By the way, as the web hosting plan I am using can offer 50 email accounts with at least 20 MB of memory, if HKRCSS committee members would like to have email account with address yourname@rcsail.com, I can set it up for you free of charge. Also, we are going to upgrade the HKRCSS web site soon if we can sort out the money issue of the club. Cheers.

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: RC forum
Date: 07 Dec 2003
Time: 22:36:14

Message

I think the support of photo upload will make this forum much more attractive. Now I have to open a personal web page in Yahoo Geocities just for the purpose of showing photos associated with my posts here. As the bandwidth of Geocities is extremely limited, I am considering moving to Ezone which is supposed to provide unlimited storage and bandwidth free of charge as long as the content is RC modelling related. Such hassle can be saved if this forum can be upgraded to allow photo upload.

Name: Chester
Topic: RC forum - to stanley
Date: 07 Dec 2003
Time: 21:18:47

Message

This forum seems to be the populest cyber space for mine kind of pilots. Will you consider to upgrade the forum with topics and tread tree like other open forums? Regards, Chester

Name: Chester
Topic: big moldie
Date: 07 Dec 2003
Time: 21:14:55

Message

I am totally agree. Big moldies are danger in small field like FNS and CWB. Big plane required more space, i.e. more safe margin to handle. So I only flies my biggies (3M) in Ma on. Chester

Name: Danny
Topic: To Stanley - big moldie
Date: 07 Dec 2003
Time: 21:00:29

Message

I totally agree that flying a big moldie should only be done with great care and precaution, bcoz it can hurt several ppl easily and severely if accident occurs. So I plan to maiden-flight my new Blade 2.5m on a week day. Oh I have to apply for annual leave la...

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: Incidence in FNS
Date: 07 Dec 2003
Time: 19:34:02

Message

The poor Hades finally got a resting place! Perhaps it is my fault to sell the Hades to Ah Pong in the first place. Please, extreme care must be taken all the time when flying and landing big moldies. Luckily the accident has come to a satisfactory end except the poorly bitten Hades! I love plane, so sorry to see such a lovely sailplane can be tortured to dead like that!

Name: Robin
Topic: Ah Pong
Date: 07 Dec 2003
Time: 09:48:03

Message

I do'nt know you i think but..........Please do'nt quit.....Your fault or not, we can only learn from our mistakes. You crashed too close to the other man which was your mistake, THAT man attacking your plane out of anger was his mistake, hey, WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES, learn from it & move on. In the eyes of the law violence is NEVER an acceptable option, no matter the reason, you did the right thing by remaining calm & accepting his poor behaviour, just don't lower yourself to his poor standard. DON'NT WORRY, & DO'NT QUIT..............!!!!

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 飛鵝山意外
Date: 07 Dec 2003
Time: 06:32:45

Message

阿邦其實亦不需為這次意外過份耿耿於懷。現在該名旁觀者只是擦傷姆指﹐事件亦最終得到解決﹐總算是不幸中之大幸。你把事件經過告訴眾飛友是非常正面的做法﹐希望同好們能以此事為介﹐在享受飛行樂趣的同時能提高警惕﹐被免意外的發生。早前在外國就曾發生由模型飛機直接導致的嚴重意外﹐一名十三歲英國女童被一失靈的模型飛機撞致傷重身亡﹐一名美國模型飛機教練被其學生操控的直昇機撞倒﹐大動脈被切斷﹐最後因失血過多而失救。我很難想像肇事機師如何面對受害者的家人及朋友並在事件的陰影下繼續過活。類似阿邦今次的意外其實我也經歷過。事發在大約三年前的清水灣﹐當時我只是剛剛接觸模型滑翔機﹐對降落時如何控制飛機的能量可謂毫無概念﹐結果那次我判斷錯了飛機的軌跡﹐我的兩米AMD黃箭在降落時飛越欄杆﹐直撞人群。一名旁觀者走避不及﹐被飛機撞中口部﹐我跑到他那處時看見他用紙巾掩蓋傷口﹐手和臉部都有血跡﹐當時我腦海一片空白﹐不知所措﹐幸好現場有其他飛友幫忙﹐為該名旁觀者檢查傷勢﹐師傅梁當時亦在場﹐他建議我送傷者往將軍澳醫院﹐並把行車路線告訴我。幸運的是﹐那位人士原來只是下顎輕微擦傷﹐無需縫針﹐敷藥後便可出院。沿途他一句責備的說話也沒說﹐離開醫院後我送他回家﹐並送他少許錢以表達我的歉意和為破壞他的假期作補嘗﹐但他也婉拒。我沒有因為那次意外而放棄飛行﹐但操控飛機時就比以前格外小心。

Name: Ken
Topic: Ah Pong - accident
Date: 07 Dec 2003
Time: 06:21:22

Message

Ah Pong, Since the matter has Police involved, do you feel that the impolite guy has tendency to do any future claims on you? If so, we better let the Insurance company know it to protect your benefit. Remember to keep the 72MHz transmitter and do not sell it. If you want me to inform the Insurance company, you can give me a separate e-mail and give us the details. Ken

Name: Danny
Topic: To Ah Pong - accident
Date: 07 Dec 2003
Time: 05:25:13

Message

Hi Ah Pong, so sad to hear about that, but don't give up. It's not your fault, just a coincidence and a lack of luck. Remember the previous case that my microfloh hit a girl? I was panic, too, but soon I know that this might be a valuable experience which reminds me of safety precaution everytime I fly. So have a rest for the coming few weeks, and have some fun other than flying planes. You will soon recover. Good luck.

Name: Ah Pong
Topic: Accident in FNS today!!
Date: 07 Dec 2003
Time: 03:19:07

Message

Hey Stanley, I have to say sorry to you as well as to HADES. I crashed it!! I had totally bought two 2nd hand planes from you, but so happened, crushed them on each of the first flight!! In fact, I am very terrified for the time being. Let me tell you guys for the story. I went to FNS this afternoon; the easterly wind was so good and provided very good lift. After played for DS for a while, I wished to land the HADES. However, I crushed it at the lookout on our right hand side due to unfamiliar of the characteristic of this plane and my bad technique. Fortunately, the fence thereat protected a man from injury despite that he must be very frightened. On the other hand, that man immediately jumped out the fence and kicked on the debris with anger. I was panic and did not know what to do. Anyway, I knew I have to go up there to solve the matter. On my way, we saw (including all other pilots) the man sat on the fence for a while, and then jumped out to the wreckage again; picked up the wing of the plane, and deliberately hit the wing onto the fence (which made the plane un-repairable). When I arrived at the lookout, that man shouted to me with foul language. I could do nothing but to say sorry. At first, I was willing to pay compensation in cash in regard to his minor injury (some pilots opined that the little laceration on his thumb was made when he hit my wing onto the fence). But the man then became very aggressive. I stood very firm at that juncture and changed my mind. Although I was the one causing the incident, but the manner of that man was unacceptable and appeared to be uncivilized. That man eventually called police. Guess what the result was? I was in a favorable position during the negotiation and the matter settled at last. I know that there would have a lot of rumours about the negotiation, but I shall never talk about it anymore, so don’t ask! Having sat down a while in my car, I felt so scared, and thought, should the plane flied a few feet higher, and then the incident would become very sad. I also recalled the sadly incident happened in KENT of UK, where a girl was killed by RC sailplane which made me even terrified. I lost all my confidence in playing with gliders now, and imposed a penalty on myself. No moldies flying in next 3 months and subject to review! I might quit this meaningful sport as well. Goodbye all fellows. Ah pong.

Name: Tsz Ming
Topic: Mini Bee
Date: 06 Dec 2003
Time: 12:03:39

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Robin Please see the link: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=170859&highlight=aby+ee No idea about pricing at this moment, around US$35 to US$40.

Name: Robin
Topic: Tsz Ming
Date: 06 Dec 2003
Time: 03:55:16

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Hi, (34.5 inch "Mini Bee" w/GWS 3.16:1 gear box & 8 inch plastic prop), Do you sell these or just you make it for yourself? Today i fly a: 400 motor w/7cell direct pusher w/6x4prop on a 29.5 inch mini-wing, flys SOOOOOOOO fast...... (straight into the ground at full throttle, very dead, very funny, no need to dig a hole to bury it!) very heavy plane but VERY fast, i think! PLEASE PLEASE.......you know i love small planes (no car) & am moving into electric recently how much $ (if you sell mini-bee)??? :?)

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: re: to cm
Date: 06 Dec 2003
Time: 03:17:18

Message

Hi Stanley, I'm not that crazy as YC! It's only that I cannot complete the plane in time and so I switched to a smaller ARF. The brushless power pack is just too heavy for that little plane. And YC thanks for calling me for the meeting but I am not in HK now and so I can't join. But thanks agian for the invitation. See you on Dec 14. (My little plane is VERY light, so don't underestimate it. hee hee)

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: CM, what's happen?
Date: 04 Dec 2003
Time: 23:05:19

Message

Wow! What happen to your Kontronic motor? 是不是練摩打時走火入魔燒咗個控？ I wonder ..., Y.C. 你要保主隻摩打，唔好亂咁練功呀！

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: To CM
Date: 04 Dec 2003
Time: 22:50:55

Message

Hi CM, Have been trying to call you but your phone seems to be out of coverage. Just want to remind you that the executive committee of the club will have a meeting tomorrow evening. Pls join us if you can. Now you don't need those big props, can I borrow them ?

Name: CM Cheng
Topic: My weapon
Date: 04 Dec 2003
Time: 22:19:13

Message

Due to some unexpected issue, my weapon is now powered by a Mabuchi motor (300 size), no more brushless or 15X10! Hope it can match with you guys' space age tech!

Name: Tsz Ming
Topic: My weapon
Date: 04 Dec 2003
Time: 09:23:43

Message

I will use my new 34.5 inch "Mini Bee", power system is 110mAh battery, GWS 3.16:1 gear box with 8 inch plastic propeller. It should able to climb 120 feet within 40 sec I guess. No chance to win but let see my 5oz rocket La!

Name: louie
Topic: Hitec servo
Date: 04 Dec 2003
Time: 04:59:36

Message

You can also go to a shop called 3D(www.3drcmodel.com), near 紅磡蕪湖街, he can help you to get Hitec server from 永利. Price is better than 鴻星(also have further discount), and I can see 3D also got 5125MG and 125MG wing servo.. I have bought a pair of HS-85MG around HK$220, and it is quite good in performance.

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 電機槳
Date: 04 Dec 2003
Time: 04:33:50

Message

嘩﹗犀利﹗睇黎要搵人同阿堅解釋一下賽例渦﹗今次唔係鬥快係鬥飛得耐呀﹗

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: 電機槳
Date: 04 Dec 2003
Time: 04:19:20

Message

今日去偉高買野見啊堅埋頭搞緊隻電機準備14號比賽，他的配搭值得參考。他用隻60寸快機，480 Cobalt 摩打, 3比1 gear ratio, 13寸 AeroNut 槳，電池用 Sanyo 最新個隻 4/3 RC 1250mAH, (啊 Ken 介紹個種), 這種電池輕巧和相對細粒,似咐是今次比賽最適合用。巿面上只有6粒裝和8粒裝,沒有7粒裝,所以他搵人特別造了一批。嘩！今次比賽真是龍爭虎鬥，好啦,我都要埋頭苦幹搞掂自已隻電機以免失禮人。

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 電機槳
Date: 04 Dec 2003
Time: 03:47:20

Message

雖然利用 Motocalc 可以搵到大約合適既槳 size, 但最終都係要試出黎。以我既動力組合為例﹐Motocalc 話飛行時間只係有兩分鐘﹐但我係工作臺量度既時間就超過三分鐘﹐而且摩打同電池都無過熱現像﹐即係話重可以擔大D槳﹐於是又訂多兩對﹐草埋草埋依家以經有5對咁多。我唸其他飛友都有同樣情況﹐不如我地下星期六集齊我地手頭上既槳﹐比所有參賽者試用﹐好過個別去進貢模型舖﹐我依家有 10x6,11x7,12x6.5, 12x9, 13x8, 頭三對槳肯定唔合用﹐有飛友合用可以隨便拿去。

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: Virus in 5irc.com
Date: 03 Dec 2003
Time: 21:57:52

Message

Oops ! sorry.... which virus is it ?

Name: K.Y.Mak
Topic: Virus in 5irc.com
Date: 03 Dec 2003
Time: 09:27:07

Message

YC, Be carefull, my Norton Antivirus program detected a virus on the website just after the visitor login screen. http://www.5irc.com/home.asp

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: 一齊訂購行星齒輪箱
Date: 03 Dec 2003
Time: 03:05:46

Message

有兄弟話有興趣試下我早排係呢度提過比有炭刷摩打用既行星齒輪箱。http://www.aircraft-world.com/proddetail.asp?prod=MPJ-8060&from=37 呢個齒輪箱係捷克製造﹐適合400-600 size有炭刷摩打。齒輪比有 3.3:1 同 3.8:1 兩種。價錢劃一 22.95美元。只有480摩打例外﹐要另外買多一個 adapter﹐價錢 4美元. 運費好平﹐只需 2.5美元。我明早就會落訂﹐希望趕得切係比賽前到貨(不過唔敢包,我以前同呢間 dealer 訂野通常五日內到貨) 。有興趣既飛友可以明早前打電話比我 90204046. 我要知到摩打以下幾個尺寸﹕1) 軸直徑(3.17mm或 2.3mm) ﹐ 2) 前啤令托外徑 3) 摩打前面個兩口鏍絲既距離(16mm, 19mm 或 25mm) 4) 鏍絲直徑 (2.5mm 或 3mm )

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: cheap China-made gear box for brushed motors
Date: 03 Dec 2003
Time: 00:49:51

Message

Probably impossible to get it in time for the upcoming contest but this is for you guys info. http://www.5irc.com/content.asp?id=310856

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: Ultra slim servo
Date: 02 Dec 2003
Time: 20:16:40

Message

Hi Stanley, you can get them from 鴻星 at 旺角廣華街. The owner told me that he will have a new batch of Hitec wing servos coming in this week. The 5125MG (digital) costs $420 each and 125MG (analog) costs $320. Info at http://www.hitecrcd.com/Servos/hs5125.htm You will probably be able to get a better deal from 永利 if 師傅梁 can help ( let me know ). I own quite a number of these wing servos and all of them are performing very well except for one which has got a little play in the gear train so do check it out when buying them. 阿剛's experience with these servos is not so good. He used 5125MG in his Bat and for unknown reasons, the circuit board burned and melted a nice little hole on the servo case !

Name: Danny
Topic: Gyro for DS
Date: 02 Dec 2003
Time: 20:13:39

Message

Hi all. Do you think using Gyro in mold plane for DS is a good idea? I think it would be easier to attain a tighter loop and fly more close to the ground with gyro in elevator and aileron. Setting a switch to on/off the gyro (changing the gain rate something??) so that front-side flying would not be affected.

Name: Danny
Topic: F3F contest + DS??
Date: 02 Dec 2003
Time: 20:07:33

Message

Hi. Just wonder if I can use DS technique in the first 30 sec just after takeoff to gain height in the F3F contest? What about in between the 10 runs?

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: Ultra slim servo
Date: 02 Dec 2003
Time: 19:19:05

Message

Hi Y.C., I didn't buy Hitec servos for a long time, but this time I really need some ultra slim Hitec servos for my Banana. Do you know where I can get hold of some in HK?

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: New toys, new servos
Date: 02 Dec 2003
Time: 17:37:44

Message

I went to 鴻星 at 廣華街 a couple of days ago and found all Hitec digital / analog wing servos sold out ! I am amazed by the servo consumption rate of you guys ! Don't buy out all glider servos out there, leave a few for me !

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: My new toys arrived
Date: 02 Dec 2003
Time: 09:23:34

Message

My Banana has just arrived. Its wing with an MG06 airfoil is very thin - the thinnest I have ever seen for a 60". It should be a real FAST machine! I also has a Trinity to come with this shipment - this should be the first in Asia. Again the quality is of high standard and the wing is very thin but strong. Hope to get it run after Christmas and pair with Fat Fai's NYX F3F to compare their performance.

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: To Derek - EPP sheet
Date: 02 Dec 2003
Time: 01:28:14

Message

Drop Tsz Ming an email ( sales@windrider.com.hk ). I guess he is still keeping some thick ( 2 inches ? ) EPP sheets. I have forgotten the exact price but it is quite expensive.

Name: derek
Topic: EPP sheet
Date: 02 Dec 2003
Time: 01:11:16

Message

Hello, where can i found EPP in Hong Kong and how much is it? Thanx

Name: Dan
Topic: anyone lives in Royal Ascot?
Date: 01 Dec 2003
Time: 20:44:58

Message

i bought a bee just now, i live in block 3, but need someone's help for assembling who is close by, dannyw17@hotmail.com thank you for your help

Name: Danny
Topic: To Stanley - Blade
Date: 01 Dec 2003
Time: 20:19:34

Message

Hi Stanley. Yes, buying from USA is more expensive (first they have them imported). I've quoted from X-model previously for 390 Euro. But I found that European ppl are more or less lazy. They don't reply email promptly and seems not quite willing to care such small deal (1 plane only). On the other hand, USA guys seems more eager for their business. So far, I am quite satisfied with the service from soaringusa.com. The reply promptly, and the package came very quick, and padded well to avoid damage. Anyway, 330 pounds + shipping is not much cheaper compared buying from US nowadays.

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: Secret Weapons
Date: 01 Dec 2003
Time: 20:01:39

Message

Hi Ah Pong, I am afraid I haven't got the pictures of your 神 洲 屎 丁. This China-made big moldy is a really unique model so make sure that it’s pictures will be taken before it reaches it's final destiny. All my electric stuff arrived yesterday. Will start doing surgery on the nose of my Highlight this evening. For those going for 400 – 600 class brushed motors, you may consider using planetary gear boxes made in China / Czech. http://www.aircraft-world.com/proddetail.asp?prod=MPJ-8060&from=37 If you are interested in giving Lithium-Polymer batteries a try, you can get it from Cyberheli at Mongkok . It’s relatively inexpensive ( HK$90 for a 2000 mAH cell, may be HK$70 for 1300 mAH cell ) and has the same performance as ETEC, a more well-established but also more expensive brand. I have been told that Waigo is carrying a very cheap ($100) Li-Po charger made in Taiwan. http://www.stmodel.com/ , Cheers.

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: Blade
Date: 01 Dec 2003
Time: 19:10:56

Message

Hi Danny, for US$629 including shipping that sounds reasonable, buying from US rather than from Europe seems cheaper now as HK$ is tied to US$ while Euro is going up like a rocket. Anyway, X-Models products are very competitive. Interestingly, I saw an advertisement in QFEI last month; European Sailplanes in UK sells the 2.5m Blade at only 330 pounds which is still cheaper than from US. However, I just checked the web site of European Sailplanes but I couldn't find the Blade there, but they do carry lots of X-Models products. Also I found that European Sailplane has put up a WARNING for those who would like to buy from EMS in Germany saying that the company is in trouble. EMS used to have very beautiful but expensive scale glider models. Here is the warning: http://www.euro-sailplanes.co.uk/uk/html/EMS.htm

Name: Ah Pong
Topic: secret weapons
Date: 01 Dec 2003
Time: 17:57:14

Message

My secret weapon is a Chinese made "STING", i.e. 神 洲 屎 丁 !!! By the way, I cannot remember either Stanley or Y.C. had taken a photo for her. Do you mind to post the photo to this forum??

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: Big Moldies
Date: 01 Dec 2003
Time: 07:43:50

Message

Do we really need to upgrade our F3F arsenal so as to be competitive? Ah, Y.C. you got an Elita, I am going to have a Trinity soon, so we are actually doing this ... wonder who got other secret weapons in hand!

Name: Danny
Topic: To Stanley - Blade
Date: 01 Dec 2003
Time: 07:35:31

Message

The Blade 2.5m costs US$629 including shipping (a week). I ordered it from soaringusa.com. I just unpacked it and have a look. The wing is real big, too big that I'm afraid I don't dare to fly it :p

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: 屏風山放機
Date: 01 Dec 2003
Time: 07:21:24

Message

睇落要上屏風山，以我慨體能真是要後生十年才可！唔怕，只要有恆心苦練執機，體能應該可以恢復得七七八八。不如搞番個兩日一夜露營放機團上去玩F3F和DS fest賽，各位機師意下如何﹖。

Name: Y C Lui
Topic: Blade
Date: 01 Dec 2003
Time: 07:13:28

Message

Christmas comes early for Danny ! Now Danny got the Blade, Fat Fai got the F3F NYX, the next F3F race is going to be very competitive !

Name: Stanley Chan
Topic: Blade
Date: 01 Dec 2003
Time: 07:06:04

Message

Hi Danny, look like we will see more big moldies on the slopes. Assembly it now if you can and fly it assp. Don't wait until next year! Once you're adidcted to the sport, you can't wait for sure! By the way, how much does the 2.5m Blade cost?

Name: Danny
Topic: Blade 2.5m
Date: 01 Dec 2003
Time: 05:25:53

Message

wow, very happy. Just came home from work and found that a big big parcel is hiding in my room... It's the blade. And it finally arrived!! It's the first large molded plane in my life. Don't know if I should get it up into sky asap, or should I wait a year more before I fly it...

Name: Danny
Topic: To Alvin - New Bee
Date: 01 Dec 2003
Time: 01:09:11

Message

Batt/switch -> B; mixer inputs -> ch1/2; mixer outputs -> servos; with all the tx reverse switch set to NORMAL, and place the servo on the table, the servo horn on top, and look from the top, make sure aileron (right stick left/right) rotates both servos in SAME direction, while elevator (left stick up/down) rotates them in DIFFERENT direction. If not, you need to swap the mixer inputs. You can leave the reverse switch after all the installation, and check up/down and left/right and set the reverse switch accordingly.

 

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